# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 34
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/661 "2014-12-19T14:41:39Z")
I don’t get it either. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/662 "2014-12-19T14:43:21Z")
It went over my head the first time I read it, too. Then I remembered a couple of details, and the penny dropped. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/663 "2014-12-19T14:45:17Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > too subtle for me > [@mlees](#): > > I don’t get it either. Pretend you’re Sigmund Freud reading that panel. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/664 "2014-12-19T14:48:01Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Pretend you’re Sigmund Freud reading that panel. “Back me up, B.” Nope… still not gettin’ it. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/665 "2014-12-19T14:49:09Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > If that is Bozzok, as many on the forum seem to believe, that almost has to mean that by rule of drama, Crystal’s been resurrected, right? Or, given what we’ve seen of Greysky City, reanimated. Haley might end up fighting FrankenCrystal. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/666 "2014-12-19T14:53:46Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > “Back me up, B.” > > Nope… still not gettin’ it. [One last clue.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7bdr6fjg-k) ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/667 "2014-12-19T14:55:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Pretend you’re Sigmund Freud reading that panel. Wait… is the joke that Haley might pleasure herself with a spell wand? Umm… I don’t think a woman would pleasure herself with a spell wand any more than she would a revolver. Do you guys seriously look at a bunch of carrots and think “Ooooo yeah! I know where _that’s_ going!” ? Edit: Yup. You guys need help. I look at a hammer, and I see a hammer. You guys see a penis. Seriously. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/668 "2014-12-19T17:34:32Z")
Also that B ‘never saw the need for one’… ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/669 "2014-12-19T17:35:35Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Wait… is the joke that Haley might pleasure herself with a spell wand? > > Umm… I don’t think a woman would pleasure herself with a spell wand any more than she would a revolver. > > Do you guys seriously look at a bunch of carrots and think “Ooooo yeah! I know where _that’s_ going!” ? > > Edit: Yup. You guys need help. I look at a hammer, and I see a hammer. You guys see a penis. Seriously. 🙂 Not with a spell wand, no. But with Elan’s “wand”, sure. “For that magical trick you just can’t duplicate.” ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/670 "2014-12-19T17:41:07Z")
> [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](#): > > Not with a spell wand, no. But with Elan’s “wand”, sure. “For that magical trick you just can’t duplicate.” You don’t think magic could duplicate a sex toy or penis? Some modified spell… let’s call it “Bigby’s erotic Fingers”, for example? ---
**Author:** ![thinksnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thinksnow/32/2849_2.png) [@thinksnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thinksnow)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/671 "2014-12-19T18:20:12Z")
Hitachi makes one of the [most popular wands](https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&es_th=1&ie=UTF-8#q=hitachi%20magic%20wand%20massager&search_plus_one=form) of all time. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/672 "2014-12-19T20:33:39Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Wait… is the joke that Haley might pleasure herself with a spell wand? No, the joke is that wands are vaguely phallic-shaped, and the other character is a lesbian, and therefore, not interested in phalluses in general. > [@](#): > > Umm… I don’t think a woman would pleasure herself with a spell wand any more than she would a revolver. I don’t think that’s the implication people are drawing from this strip. Also, it depends on what spells you have stored in the wand. I’m sure Bigby developed a spell or two that would work great in that situation. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/673 "2014-12-19T21:03:38Z")
So…phallic implications aside, how do wands work in D&D? Is it “Use X times and then throw away” or “Use X times/day”? Because it seems kind of wasteful to have Haley practicing with wands if each try consumes a charge from a very expensive consumable. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2014, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/674 "2014-12-19T21:07:00Z")
OK, that was subtle. But I got it on the re-read. EDIT: Wands are limited-use, but each one starts with 50 charges (though the secondhand ones scavenged from Z might have less). Realistically, there’s no chance in running through all of the charges in even one of the wands before they finish saving the world. And from Haley’s point of view, the process for activation one is the same for every wand, so she can spread her practice out over multiple wands. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 8:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/675 "2014-12-20T08:43:44Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > You don’t think magic could duplicate a sex toy or penis? > > Some modified spell… let’s call it “Bigby’s erotic Fingers”, for example? What _I_ think isn’t important. Haley obviously feels there’s no substitute for the real thing - and as I understand it, a fair few women actually think that a flesh and blood penis attached to a man they’re really into beats any three sex toys you care to name. > [@Miller](#): > > No, the joke is that wands are vaguely phallic-shaped, and the other character is a lesbian, and therefore, not interested in phalluses in general. A man with your advantages might have read _Girls with Slingshots_, drawn by a woman who bangs on a great deal about phallic objects if only they don’t have to be part of an actual man. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/676 "2014-12-20T21:11:08Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Wait… is the joke that Haley might pleasure herself with a spell wand? Not that literally. The joke is that the straight woman is saying how much she likes wands and the gay woman is saying she’s never really had any use for them. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/677 "2014-12-20T23:27:11Z")
I’m somewhat baffled that it took so much effort to explain that joke… ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/678 "2014-12-20T23:48:14Z")
I, too. Is this typical on these boards? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [December 20, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/679 "2014-12-20T23:50:44Z")
I think it depends how often people reread the comic. I didn’t remember that the other person was a known lesbian. So I didn’t see that aspect of the joke but got the rest of it. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2014, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/680 "2014-12-21T01:05:48Z")
I don’t remember any support for Bandana being a lesbian in previous strips. What did I miss? ETA: oh, nm – the comment about her ex being curvy like Haley, when they were discussing armor. Got it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=33) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=35)