# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 39
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/761 "2015-02-13T18:57:06Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Is it me, or is there a grey coloring the area around the golem? > > Does this indicate some kind of aura, or protection spell? I think those are just artistic movement and ‘bonk’ swipes, not any kind of spell. ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/762 "2015-02-13T19:15:35Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The last N years? The entire story has been set within the span of two years. And Roy destroyed the gate four days ago (in story time). Ah, I thought he meant the first gate. After you blow up two or three cosmic barriers, one tends to lose track of who erected which one. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/763 "2015-02-13T19:40:32Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > The last N years? The entire story has been set within the span of two years. And Roy destroyed the gate four days ago (in story time). Haven’t we already seen consequences? Laurin nearly getting Snarl-zapped (and some nameless guards less lucky)? So if the Snarl is already aware of the open Gates, it seems likely that the Order’s work won’t be done with merely stopping Xykon/Redcloak. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 13, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/764 "2015-02-13T20:18:57Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Haven’t we already seen consequences? Laurin nearly getting Snarl-zapped (and some nameless guards less lucky)? So if the Snarl is already aware of the open Gates, it seems likely that the Order’s work won’t be done with merely stopping Xykon/Redcloak. That happened to Laurin so it wasn’t really a consequence for Roy. Here’s what Burlew wrote: > [@](#): > > It was crucial this time around for Roy to destroy the Gate by his own hand, with no accidents or misunderstandings or wacky hijinks. He took responsibility for all the unknown variables - including those that Vaarsuvius was yelling about down below - then rolled up his proverbial sleeves and did the deed himself. The consequences hereafter must fall squarely on his shoulders, as the hero of the story. We’ll start to see some of those in the next book, I guess. Burlew seems to be making a point of Roy’s awareness of what he was doing. And there has been a progression in the destruction of the Gates. Redcloak destroyed the first one by accident. Elan destroyed the second one intentionally but he had no idea what he was destroying. Miko destroyed the third one intentionally and was aware the Gate was important but only had a limited awareness of what the Gate was doing. So Roy is the first person who destroyed a Gate in full awareness of that he was risking all of existence by doing so. But even Roy (and we readers) are not yet aware of the full truth behind the Gates and the Snarl. So maybe the destruction of the fifth and final Gate will be done by somebody who really understands what he’s doing. (And Burlew has shown he actually does plot out his future story lines in this detail.) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/765 "2015-02-20T05:57:07Z")
Just finished reading the Therkla side story from the Kickstarter program. Both hilarious and poignant. [ul] [li]The fetch quest line was, of course, very amusing.[/li][li]I can’t believe I didn’t get the Mik Guh Fan joke until the end with the symbol on it.[/li][li]And I just now got the “resisting poisons” tragic irony.[/li][li]Though the realization about the death prophecy was pretty clever.[/li][li]And I just now got the “hope nobody sees it coming” line. VERY clever.[/li][/ul] That’s the mark of a great writer: there was just so much I didn’t realize until a second consideration. Perhaps more as I think about it when I have time. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/766 "2015-02-20T06:36:22Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > That happened to Laurin so it wasn’t really a consequence for Roy What I meant was that we saw a new loose end as a direct result of Roy’s decision. No matter what, the story now doesn’t end with beating up Xykon and going home. What Roy did has story-changing consequences and Laurin’s fate is just a symptom of that. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/767 "2015-02-20T08:29:46Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [li]I can’t believe I didn’t get the Mik Guh Fan joke until the end with the symbol on it.[/li] I only understood mik-guh-fan = mac-guf-fin when it was explained on the OOTS forum, but what does the symbol mean? ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 9:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/768 "2015-02-20T09:04:35Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I only understood mik-guh-fan = mac-guf-fin when it was explained on the OOTS forum, but what does the symbol mean? [spoiler]It’s the logo of _Alfred Hitchcock Presents_, relevant for obvious reasons. ETA: Wait, I just realized that under these circumstances with this question, maybe it’s not so obvious. Hitchcock popularized the term.[/spoiler] ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/769 "2015-02-20T11:07:34Z")
I got the email but can’t open the damn thing. I keep getting an ‘invalid registry’ message when I click on the file. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/770 "2015-02-20T12:42:19Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > [spoiler]It’s the logo of _Alfred Hitchcock Presents_, relevant for obvious reasons. > > ETA: Wait, I just realized that under these circumstances with this question, maybe it’s not so obvious. Hitchcock popularized the term.[/spoiler] :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 20, 2015, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/771 "2015-02-20T15:55:49Z")
I have to say, I loved seeing more of Sangwaan, as she’s one of my favorite minor characters. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/772 "2015-02-24T23:53:51Z")
[New Strip # 976](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0976.html) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 24, 2015, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/773 "2015-02-24T23:59:17Z")
“Let’s do that one.” ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/774 "2015-02-25T00:05:20Z")
Haha! I liked this one. “Money!” Does anyone else think it constitutes a small amount of character growth for Haley, that she just hastily tossed a huge sack of gold as payment? It obviously doesn’t service the strip as well, but I’d have expected her to pay exactly the right amount from reflex, or make a note to come back and settle the debt after dispatching Crystal. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/775 "2015-02-25T00:56:13Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Haha! I liked this one. “Money!” > > Does anyone else think it constitutes a small amount of character growth for Haley, that she just hastily tossed a huge sack of gold as payment? It obviously doesn’t service the strip as well, but I’d have expected her to pay exactly the right amount from reflex, or make a note to come back and settle the debt after dispatching Crystal. At least it shows she is developing a better sense of priorities. Say, if they have weapons that can harm a golem now, why didn’t they cut its head off? ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/776 "2015-02-25T01:18:18Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Say, if they have weapons that can harm a golem now, why didn’t they cut its head off? Because hacking through a spine is harder than poking or slashing at softer tissue. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/777 "2015-02-25T01:20:42Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > At least it shows she is developing a better sense of priorities. > > Say, if they have weapons that can harm a golem now, why didn’t they cut its head off? Because that would kill it, and it clearly has way too many hit points to die yet. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/778 "2015-02-25T01:23:19Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > Does anyone else think it constitutes a small amount of character growth for Haley, that she just hastily tossed a huge sack of gold as payment? It obviously doesn’t service the strip as well, but I’d have expected her to pay exactly the right amount from reflex This is Haley we’re talking about; she probably _did_ pay exactly the right amount. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/779 "2015-02-25T01:37:03Z")
The right amount for a couple of adamantine weapons was enough for the merchant couple to settle their debts and retire to the tropics? Can we get a D&D expert to weigh in on that? I have no idea how much adamantine weapons are supposed to cost. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/780 "2015-02-25T01:51:44Z")
> [@oft\_wears\_hats](#): > > The right amount for a couple of adamantine weapons was enough for the merchant couple to settle their debts and retire to the tropics? > > Can we get a D&D expert to weigh in on that? I have no idea how much adamantine weapons are supposed to cost. An adamantium weapon costs about 3,000 gold. In vacation terms, renting the most expensive suite in a luxury inn for one night costs ~30 gold. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=38) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=40)