# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 40
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/781 "2015-02-25T03:12:00Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > At least it shows she is developing a better sense of priorities. > > Say, if they have weapons that can harm a golem now, why didn’t they cut its head off? Well, Haley no longer has to bail Dear Old Dad out of Tyrrania (aka Kingdom of Blood), so she’s not quite as motivated to miser up. Even though they have weapons that can harm the golem, it’s not as though they can kill it with one hit. Typical D&D – in “real life”, you hit a vital spot with your weapon and the fight is over; in D&D, even with a crit, a dagger or short sword is only going to subtract so many hit points from the golem (and the golem has lots). ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/782 "2015-02-25T07:26:28Z")
Plus if I’m not mistaken, in AD&D 3.5 golems are among that looooooong list of critters that are immune to sneak attacks, making Rogues pretty much useless in a fight against them. Both of them are gonna hit it maybe twice or thrice a round for 1d6 and 1d4 respectively (maybe +2 or 3 from STR, and even that is fairly generous), while it retaliates with like 2 or 3 2d8+5 slams (plus probably power attack, and whatever Crystal Golems get to beef up). I’m pretty sure at these rates they run out of HP before it does. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/783 "2015-02-25T07:38:47Z")
Crystal, being a Rogue, likely did not have Power Attack. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 7:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/784 "2015-02-25T07:57:16Z")
Yeah but she probably gained a bunch of Big Dumb feats as part of her monster template. I mean, she can now charge \*through \*walls. That rates an ability to Power Attack in my book 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/785 "2015-02-25T08:14:26Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I’m pretty sure at these rates they run out of HP before it does. It depends how many potions of healing Haley has in her Bag of Holding, doesn’t it? That’s one area where organics have an advantage over constructs. ---
**Author:** ![oft\_wears\_hats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/7993a0/32.png) [@oft\_wears\_hats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/oft_wears_hats)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/786 "2015-02-25T14:29:19Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > An adamantium weapon costs about 3,000 gold. In vacation terms, renting the most expensive suite in a luxury inn for one night costs ~30 gold. Thanks. So, either explanation tracks. Either way, it was funny. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/787 "2015-02-25T14:55:41Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > It depends how many potions of healing Haley has in her Bag of Holding, doesn’t it? She has a wand of healing, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/788 "2015-02-25T15:04:22Z")
Could she use the Wand of Flying to Fly the Crystal Golem? Hard for CG to apply any force with nothing to brace against. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/789 "2015-02-25T15:12:05Z")
> [@Quartz](#): > > She has a wand of healing, too. She gave it to Elan. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/790 "2015-02-25T15:15:55Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Could she use the Wand of Flying to Fly the Crystal Golem? Hard for CG to apply any force with nothing to brace against. Just what she needs, [another airborne tramp](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0518.html)to fight. ---
**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2015, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/791 "2015-02-25T18:00:32Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > Could she use the Wand of Flying to Fly the Crystal Golem? Hard for CG to apply any force with nothing to brace against. Assuming she can cast it on Crystal, nothing’s gained: It’s the recipient of the spell who controls the flight, not the caster. All you get is a golem that can fly when, if and how it wants to, not one that is forced to. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/792 "2015-03-05T23:01:19Z")
Hmm. Seems less-than-optimal, then. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/793 "2015-03-10T09:59:46Z")
[NEW ONE](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0977.html) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/794 "2015-03-10T10:02:23Z")
Ah, gnomes. Stupid, stupid gnomes. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Goob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c77e96/32.png) [@Mr.Goob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Goob)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/795 "2015-03-10T13:50:41Z")
The alliteration of Department of Gnomeland Security made me laugh out loud. I credit Berlow, it just gets worse and worse. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/796 "2015-03-10T14:01:29Z")
> [@Mr.Goob](#): > > alliteration :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/797 "2015-03-10T15:15:37Z")
Is that a Borderlands 2 reference in panel 6? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/798 "2015-03-10T21:37:10Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > :dubious: That word. I do not think it means what you think it means. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/799 "2015-03-10T22:12:36Z")
“Power levels at 400%.” “Cool.” ---
**Author:** ![Fair\_Rarity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fair_rarity/32/153_2.png) [@Fair\_Rarity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fair_Rarity)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2015, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/800 "2015-03-11T01:47:08Z")
The more I thought about Gnomeland Security, the more I giggled. It was so painfully bad that it came right back 'round again to funny. It was very Pearls Before Swine. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=39) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=41)