# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 53
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 5, 2015, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1041 "2015-05-05T13:42:18Z")
I knew that the vampire must be destroyed but Roy knows that as well. Part of Durkon’s ruse is that he will willingly let Roy destroy him once they can find a cleric capable of resurrecting him. Until then, it makes more sense to leave him a vampire so he can assist the party. If Durkon was going to violently resist being destroyed then it would make no sense to help Roy set up that confrontation. Durkon has no intent of being destroyed but he must have a more subtle plan than flailing and biting. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1042 "2015-05-07T04:10:39Z")
[983!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0983.html) ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1043 "2015-05-07T05:27:32Z")
Dwarves seem to be socially progressive in at least one way. Or maybe that’s just Durkon’s mom. ---
**Author:** ![Sasquatch\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8491ac/32.png) [@Sasquatch\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sasquatch_1)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 5:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1044 "2015-05-07T05:42:57Z")
In older D&D, by the actual race description dwarves had a 2:1 male:female birth ratio. Some stories I’ve seen have had it even higher, sort of anti-ants. Lots of males, few females. Usually for story purposes, extra males died in wars/defense or became single minded craftsmen. One would expect a fair amount of pairing up though, even if it wasn’t in the stories. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1045 "2015-05-07T06:09:20Z")
Coincidentally, I was reading a philosophy text a couple of hours ago on the various theories of causality. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1046 "2015-05-07T16:20:23Z")
Huh, I hadn’t even noticed the clockwork leg before. I think this is the first time the limitations of the medium have been significant for me. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1047 "2015-05-07T16:23:47Z")
I strongly suspect that’s why Burlew had to resort to expospeak. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1048 "2015-05-07T17:45:40Z")
3 days…hope the pace remains upbeat… ---
**Author:** ![Foggy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foggy/32/1082_2.png) [@Foggy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Foggy)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1049 "2015-05-07T18:57:12Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > 3 days…hope the pace remains upbeat… Well now you’ve gone and jinx it, the next update will now be August 13, 2015;) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1050 "2015-05-07T19:20:28Z")
OK, now that you’ve said that, if it’s actually not until August 14, I’m holding you accountable. ---
**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1051 "2015-05-07T23:04:45Z")
Heh – Thursday School. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2015, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1052 "2015-05-09T00:17:13Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Huh, I hadn’t even noticed the clockwork leg before. I think this is the first time the limitations of the medium have been significant for me. > [@Kobal2](#): > > I strongly suspect that’s why Burlew had to resort to expospeak. Yeah, I didn’t notice it either, and I’m glad he mentioned it. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1053 "2015-05-11T13:55:48Z")
[984](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0984.html) ---
**Author:** ![Finagle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/b19c9b/32.png) [@Finagle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Finagle)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1054 "2015-05-11T14:15:27Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [984](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0984.html) Huh. So Durkon suspects that there’s a mysterious powerful cleric on the loose? That he’s interested in tracking down for some Hel-ish reason? Is this a new faction or someone we’ve heard of before? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1055 "2015-05-11T14:17:17Z")
Redcloak? Hilgya? The nameless cleric of Loki? ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1056 "2015-05-11T14:21:11Z")
I can’t figure out the puzzle. What is Durk\* trying to find out from this putative powerful Cleric that the Gnomish Cleric knows, but won’t let on that he knows? Is he trying to figure out where the High Priest(s) of Odin is (are)? And how does his comment about needing Roy fit into this? > [@](#): > > [“It turns out the best way to get where my mistress needs me is for Roy to escort me there.”](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0982.html) ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1057 "2015-05-11T14:36:54Z")
Maybe it has something to do with the Gate ritual? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1058 "2015-05-11T15:57:59Z")
Why, Mr. Burlew, you’re spoiling us! I wouldn’t have thought Redcloak and company would have passed through given that they’re travelling via the astral plane, but Hilgya is due for a reappearance at some point. Also, Hel would presumably be more in tune with dwarven clerics than those of other species. However, I’m not clear to what extent the clergies of Loki and Hel would work together (as followers of Evil deities) as opposed to being in competition. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1059 "2015-05-11T20:06:59Z")
Hmm, I am unclear if there is really was something there, or if The vamp is starting to crack up. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1060 "2015-05-11T23:48:05Z")
Is there reason to believe that Hilgya would even be high enough level to cast _Resurrection_? I realize that vamp-Durkon doesn’t actually want that but no one is going to mention her being around if she’s not. Anyway, Durkon is at his level due to the adventure they’ve been on and Nale & Co kept up due to them being the Elan’s nemesis but Hilgya’s been out of the picture since the beginning. Plus it sounds as though ALL of the Northern Pantheon sort of holds Hel in contempt. I mean, at least Loki has an actual clergy whereas no one follows Hel. Hel wants to “[bring this world to ruin](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0946.html)” which may not be Loki’s plan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=52) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=54)