# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 55
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1081 "2015-05-14T12:58:45Z")
I was going to say “ah, so Durkon wants to know where the pilgrims are going exactly, secret holy site then ?” ; but Hel would know about something like that, wouldn’t she ? I should think you get to become a god without getting humongous scrying powers somewhere along the way… ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1082 "2015-05-14T13:17:25Z")
I get the impression HPOH already knows the destination, but he’s trying to find a justification for going there. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1083 "2015-05-14T13:26:17Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > I was going to say “ah, so Durkon wants to know where the pilgrims are going exactly, secret holy site then ?” ; but Hel would know about something like that, wouldn’t she ? I should think you get to become a god without getting humongous scrying powers somewhere along the way… It could be that having no earthly followers puts you at a disadvantage in that regard. Her entire domain is the underworld so perhaps her ability to watch the world of the living is more limited. > [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I get the impression HPOH already knows the destination, but he’s trying to find a justification for going there. He knows what, I think, but not where. Hence him wanting to follow the pilgrims. Otherwise he could have just told Roy “I know exactly where they’re heading, let’s go!” when Roy said they didn’t have time to search a 2,000 mile mountain range. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 14, 2015, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1084 "2015-05-14T13:27:58Z")
> [@Garula](#): > > So, if a bunch of pilgrims are all heading to the same place, maybe that means the deities will all be in the same place too? Possibly an opportunity for a surprise attack by Hel? You mean, he wants to unleash Hel? ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1085 "2015-05-15T17:03:47Z")
Is it just me or is the Durkpire slipping out of his accent as he gets more excited. Check out his argument just before and just after Roy says no. There is no indication in the speech bubble of any accent at all. Has Roy figured it out? Is that why he is saying no? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 15, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1086 "2015-05-15T18:09:35Z")
> [@Strassia](#): > > Is it just me or is the Durkpire slipping out of his accent as he gets more excited. Check out his argument just before and just after Roy says no. There is no indication in the speech bubble of any accent at all. It’s not just you. I’m sure it’s deliberately done by the author. > [@](#): > > Has Roy figured it out? Is that why he is saying no? I don’t think so. Roy has been fooled, and not for the first time. He’s saying no because they can’t spare the time. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1087 "2015-05-18T08:39:57Z")
[**986**](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0986.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 9:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1088 "2015-05-18T09:01:59Z")
Do not poke the vampire. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1089 "2015-05-18T09:27:37Z")
A note from the Giant himself: > [@](#): > > Back when I ran the Kickstarter campaign, the top reward was a walk-on cameo for a D&D character of your creation. It’s taken a while, but today I fulfilled that reward in strip #986. Veldrina the elven priestess is the creation of one of my loyal backers and has been included here at their request. In fact, upon hearing the character’s description for the first time, I immediately decided to slot her into an existing spot in the upcoming story where a divine caster would make the most sense, so she will be sticking around a bit more than the one page that was paid for. It just took a long time to get to this specific point in the narrative, though luckily the backer has been very gracious and patient for this entire time. So enjoy the first-ever fan-created OOTS character for however long she’s here. > > I also fulfilled another promise with today’s strip, if a less joyous one. Mark Monack, who went by the screen name “Wrecan,” was a pillar of the message board community for many years. He was, among his other roles, the founder of one of the forum’s odder traditions: counting the number of strips each character appears in, a project that continues many years after he began it. When he passed in 2013, I asked his wife Jodie if there was anything I could do to help out. She told me he would have loved nothing more than to have a walk-on character named Wrecan in OOTS. Now, there is one. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1090 "2015-05-18T17:03:29Z")
Thanks for the info Gyrate. I could tell by how they were presented these weren’t going to be one-off characters like the temple druids had been. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1091 "2015-05-18T18:52:06Z")
A small note but I like the sign: “Human-sized rooms at normal-sized prices”. Once again, Burlew makes the point that NPC’s have their own lives and aren’t just props to the player characters. Gnomes wouldn’t think of themselves as being short. They’d consider gnome-sized to be the norm and would regard humans as being bigger than normal. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 18, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1092 "2015-05-18T21:37:58Z")
The priestess likes dumplings, eh? You know what goes with dumplings? Stew. And who do we know who likes stew? The MitD. This might be a clue. And a conclave of priests might mean that the MitD is indeed Zeus. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1093 "2015-05-21T22:16:21Z")
[NEW STRIP 987](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0987.html) ---
**Author:** ![Saltire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saltire/32/553_2.png) [@Saltire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saltire)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1094 "2015-05-21T23:22:46Z")
I know vampires are arrogant, but Hel’s undead minion is really out there. I don’t know what their goal is, but it seems unimaginably risky to put him among so many high-level clerics. Should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1095 "2015-05-21T23:28:10Z")
> [@Saltire](#): > > I know vampires are arrogant, but Hel’s undead minion is really out there. I don’t know what their goal is, but it seems unimaginably risky to put him among so many high-level clerics. Should be interesting. Yeah, there’s going to be enough Turning power (not to mention Rebuking/Commanding power, and wouldn’t THAT be embarrassing?) to make that a really tricky moment if any of those clerics twig to what’s really going on. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2015, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1096 "2015-05-21T23:33:18Z")
There’ll probably be some “I’m a vampire but I’m also Hel’s cleric and the Godsmoot Treaty Accords of the 12th Year of the Snarl prohibit clerics from attacking another cleric during…” blah blah blah. He’s not going to wandering into a pile of clerics with the _Turn Undeads_ and _Maces of Disruption_ (are those still a thing?) without knowing he can’t be hurt. And Hel wouldn’t send her one minion without assurances of his survival. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1097 "2015-05-22T01:08:25Z")
## I like Veldrina, but I wondered about her wisdom score. It turns out [Favored Souls](http://www.ddo.com/en/favored-soul-101) are more reliant on charisma. Ah. ## From what Durkula said, I might infer that all vampires in Ootsland have a dual soul arrangement. It’s sort of ironic that vampires have a greater risk of a final ending than their occupant, who could be resurrected or reincarnated if an adversary gets stakey. Rich’s treatment really puts the horror back into the vampire template. Ditto for golems. Could the Durkula showdown really be only a couple of days away in-comic? Or even the next day? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1098 "2015-05-22T01:26:57Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > Could the Durkula showdown really be only a couple of days away in-comic? Or even the next day? It would be a surprise to us readers if Burlew kills off Durkon and he returns home posthumously in the traditional sense, making this whole vampire thing just a red herring. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1099 "2015-05-22T01:30:42Z")
No, RB has said that the Durkula plot will go on a while. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1100 "2015-05-22T02:29:51Z")
Heh. Love the last panel. [QUOTE=Measure for Measure] I like Veldrina, but I wondered about her wisdom score. It turns out [Favored Souls](http://www.ddo.com/en/favored-soul-101) are more reliant on charisma. Ah. [/QUOTE] Yeah, Favoured Soul is basically the Sorcerer of Clerics. And the…hmm, what was it, Spirit Shaman ? Something like that. Sorcerer of Druids. Very crappy one, too - who needs a Druid who can’t wildshape and has no animal companion ? Druid spells are shitty for a reason ! 🙂 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=54) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=56)