# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 56
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1101 "2015-05-22T03:56:17Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Heh. Love the last panel. Plus the fly joke, the sombrero callback, and the cameo reference. Lots of punchlines for what’s primarily a plot advancing strip. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1102 "2015-05-22T04:31:36Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Very crappy one, too - who needs a Druid who can’t wildshape and has no animal companion ? Druid spells are shitty for a reason ! 🙂 Druid spells aren’t shitty, _provided you have an animal companion._ There’s a reason the primary tank in my group is a three pound raven. Once I lard her up with enough buffs, that’s not a bird anymore: it’s a flying buzz saw. One that screams “Eyes! Eyes!” when she attacks. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1103 "2015-05-22T08:25:55Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Plus the fly joke, the sombrero callback, and the cameo reference. Lots of punchlines for what’s primarily a plot advancing strip. Even revealed the size of the Kickstarter donation, for the benefit of those who might have missed it the first time around. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1104 "2015-05-23T10:05:05Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Druid spells aren’t shitty, _provided you have an animal companion._ There’s a reason the primary tank in my group is a three pound raven. Once I lard her up with enough buffs, that’s not a bird anymore: it’s a flying buzz saw. One that screams “Eyes! Eyes!” when she attacks. Name’s Hitchcock, right? ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1105 "2015-05-23T10:55:36Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Druid spells aren’t shitty, _provided you have an animal companion._ There’s a reason the primary tank in my group is a three pound raven. Once I lard her up with enough buffs, that’s not a bird anymore: it’s a flying buzz saw. One that screams “Eyes! Eyes!” when she attacks. Eh, that’s debatable, really. Generally speaking I reckon any given Druid spell is worse than an equivalent level Cleric or Wizard spell trying to do the same thing, with a handful of notable exceptions - Barkskin is aces, Faerie Fire can be _very_ handy, and Creeping Doom is nasty as hell. But if you compare, say, Call Lightning to a miserable Scorching Ray, it’s pretty sad for the Druid. Nature summons in particular are really bad in comparison - you’ve got a handful of strong outliers like Dire Tiger which can rock monsters’ world for a few levels, but at higher levels you just can’t compare a Druid that summons a handful of elementals (that take up all of the space, too) to a cleric/mage summoning demons/angels/spirits with a list of abilities longer than my arm, not to mention their own spells. All of that is balanced by the fact that, yeah, animal companions and wild shapes are pretty fricking rad, and the specialty buffs for those are indeed above average. Which goes back to my point : Spirit Shamen are \*really \*bad because they have neither :). ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 4:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1106 "2015-05-23T16:06:19Z")
Just fyi, the [plural of shaman is shamans](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/shaman). ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1107 "2015-05-23T19:43:42Z")
I thought it was Shyamalan ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1108 "2015-05-23T20:09:48Z")
[Doo Doo Doo-Doo-Doo.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N_tupPBtWQ) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1109 "2015-05-28T04:26:36Z")
[988](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1110 "2015-05-28T04:27:59Z")
oops! ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1111 "2015-05-28T05:30:36Z")
I’d expect Durkula to trigger Haley’s spidey sense at some juncture. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1112 "2015-05-28T06:09:24Z")
Huh. I clicked earlier and I could swear there was a panel about how Haley figured Durkon would keep casting ‘endure elements’ so no need for new winter gear, kthanks. The current comic omits this. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1113 "2015-05-28T06:56:51Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Huh. I clicked earlier and I could swear there was a panel about how Haley figured Durkon would keep casting ‘endure elements’ so no need for new winter gear, kthanks. The current comic omits this. You’re right. It was definitely there. I don’t remember if [970](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0970.html) had these original lines. It’s possible Burlew just forgot he had written them and reused them in the new strip. Then when it was pointed out, he went back and revised it (and made a joke about how long ago this morning was in strip time). There was a similar glitch over Andi’s name that got revised. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1114 "2015-05-28T07:35:45Z")
In fact, it was there immediately before I submitted my last post. A mere 2 hours ago. From Rich’s twitter feed: [INDENT][INDENT] 4h New OOTS! #988, Much Less Swordfighting: [988 Much Less Swordfighting - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html) … 3h Apparently, getting hit in the head a lot caused Haley to completely reverse her position on winter gear from 18 strips ago. Oops. 2h OK, I’ve waved my magic retcon wand and the dialogue is now consistent with the older strip. [/INDENT][/INDENT] …though it doesn’t flow quite as well. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2015, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1115 "2015-05-28T13:40:40Z")
> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#): > > In fact, it was there immediately before I submitted my last post. A mere 2 hours ago. > > From Rich’s twitter feed: [INDENT][INDENT] 4h New OOTS! #988, Much Less Swordfighting: [988 Much Less Swordfighting - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0988.html) … > > 3h Apparently, getting hit in the head a lot caused Haley to completely reverse her position on winter gear from 18 strips ago. Oops. > > 2h OK, I’ve waved my magic retcon wand and the dialogue is now consistent with the older strip. [/INDENT][/INDENT] …though it doesn’t flow quite as well. ☹ lol. I read it the other way last night, and I didn’t remember that had come up before, either. ---
**Author:** ![Gretchion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8edcca/32.png) [@Gretchion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gretchion)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 10:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1116 "2015-06-02T10:55:32Z")
[989[SIZE=“6”]](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0989.html)[/SIZE] ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 11:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1117 "2015-06-02T11:17:21Z")
Cats. They rule us all. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1118 "2015-06-02T11:23:24Z")
Not-Tiger-Wrangler pulling a Linda Blair in panel 3. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 12:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1119 "2015-06-02T12:23:16Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Not-Tiger-Wrangler pulling a Linda Blair in panel 3. Yeah, that threw me - I couldn’t tell whether he turned around (in which case why was the shield at the front?) or whether his head was on backwards. But I try not to criticize the free funnies directly to their creator. Also, the shield looks like a big button. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 2, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1120 "2015-06-02T13:18:25Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Not-Tiger-Wrangler pulling a Linda Blair in panel 3. Thog not get reference. 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=55) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=57)