# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 65
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1281 "2015-07-31T14:30:14Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Malack explained about the spell to hasten the process but he explained it to Durkon’s corpse. Durkon might have discovered it while examining the staff but we don’t know for sure. Hel might know about it? (Assuming all vampires, like Malack, work(ed) for Hel.) ---
**Author:** ![Stanislaus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stanislaus/32/3391_2.png) [@Stanislaus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stanislaus)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1282 "2015-07-31T14:31:29Z")
So… this is when Belkar dies, right? ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1283 "2015-07-31T14:49:13Z")
> [@Finagle](#): > > You know, if this is like most religious meetings I’ve been to, I’m pretty sure they’d at least have been serving bagels, drinks, and tuna hot dish. I guess sometimes though, you just can’t wait for the coffee break. Belkar did put some skill points into lox picking. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1284 "2015-07-31T15:00:21Z")
> [@mlees](#): > > Hel might know about it? (Assuming all vampires, like Malack, work(ed) for Hel.) Malack pretty clearly worked for Nergal, the eastern pantheon god of death and destruction. Hel wouldn’t want a lizard-person, the Dwarves are her realm. ---
**Author:** ![mlees](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba8739/32.png) [@mlees](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mlees)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1285 "2015-07-31T15:11:54Z")
> [@yellowjacketcoder](#): > > Malack pretty clearly worked for Nergal, the eastern pantheon god of death and destruction. Hel wouldn’t want a lizard-person, the Dwarves are her realm. Doh! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1286 "2015-07-31T17:24:11Z")
> [@Stanislaus](#): > > So… this is when Belkar dies, right? Well . . . perhaps “draws his last breath, ever” means Belkar becomes a vampire. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1287 "2015-08-01T00:06:40Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > Well . . . perhaps “draws his last breath, ever” means Belkar becomes a vampire. That’s what I’m expecting. Although after that, I expect someone will kill the vampire. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1288 "2015-08-01T00:11:18Z")
I’m betting against Belkar being turned into a vampire, for two reasons: we already have a story about a member of the party turning into a vampire, and having Belkar vamped now would undercut Durkon’s sacrifice when he saved Belkar from being vamped by Malack. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1289 "2015-08-01T02:05:42Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > …having Belkar vamped now would undercut Durkon’s sacrifice when he saved Belkar from being vamped by Malack. That’s a good point. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1290 "2015-08-01T02:25:23Z")
And Belkar’s prophecy also says that he’s “not long for this world”. Yeah, yeah, he could get turned into a sexy shoeless mecha-golem and plane-shifted to the quasisemidemihemielemental plane of salsa con queso, and the prophecy would still be fulfilled… but smart money is on him just plain dying and staying dead. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1291 "2015-08-01T02:31:47Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And Belkar’s prophecy also says that he’s “not long for this world”. Yeah, yeah, he could get turned into a sexy shoeless mecha-golem and plane-shifted to the quasisemidemihemielemental plane of salsa con queso, and the prophecy would still be fulfilled… but smart money is on him just plain dying and staying dead. I wish to propose a motion that the first action taken on game night be the summoning of a salsa con queso quasisemidemihemielemental. And a Mountain Dew golem. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1292 "2015-08-06T11:58:51Z")
The countdown to 1000 continues apace! I think red is highly appropriate this time: [996](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0996.html) ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 12:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1293 "2015-08-06T12:05:23Z")
I am going to flout consensus here and predict that Belkar survives, and comes back with vengeance flaming in his eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1294 "2015-08-06T12:13:33Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am going to flout consensus here and predict that Belkar survives, and comes back with vengeance flaming in his eyes. But at the last possible moment. ---
**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1295 "2015-08-06T12:27:36Z")
Can halflings even achieve terminal (as in splat) velocity ? We already know they can’t be hanged 🙂 What’s the fiery aura about ? Is it Belkar going supersayan, Fairy Lights from Durkula (…why ?), what ? Also, that’s a pretty big wolf to shapeshift into. Vamps typically only do regular ones. Though I guess it could have been wolf shape + Holy Might. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1296 "2015-08-06T12:27:42Z")
An undamaged Belkar would easily survive the 20d6 damage from the fall. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1297 "2015-08-06T13:18:15Z")
Looks like the protection from evil amulet didn’t help much. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1298 "2015-08-06T13:23:32Z")
Looks like he’s falling into water. I think that negates some damage. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1299 "2015-08-06T14:25:38Z")
Looks like Durkula left Belkar’s daggers behind. That’ll probably come in later. “Belkar would NEVER leave his stabbing implements unattended!” I guess there’s also a broken window to provide a little clue. ---
**Author:** ![yellowjacketcoder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/4bbf92/32.png) [@yellowjacketcoder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yellowjacketcoder)\ **Post date:** [August 6, 2015, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1300 "2015-08-06T14:40:29Z")
> [@Kobal2](#): > > Can halflings even achieve terminal (as in splat) velocity ? We already know they can’t be hanged 🙂 > > What’s the fiery aura about ? Is it Belkar going supersayan, Fairy Lights from Durkula (…why ?), what ? > > Also, that’s a pretty big wolf to shapeshift into. Vamps typically only do regular ones. Though I guess it could have been wolf shape + Holy Might. Vampires can shapeshift into Dire Wolves, which is probably what Durkula did. An undamaged Belkar would probably survive the fall, but he’s already taken damage from the wolf bite and the fire, so he’s going to be in bad shape, but narratively it doesn’t make sense for him to go out like a bitch, so I bet he survives somehow. As far as the fire though, not sure what that is. It’s not Flame Strike or Fire Storm from the animation (those would be a column). It’s not one of the various Inflict X Wounds (those are touch attacks). I would guess it’s a cleric power than can be used silently, but no idea what it might be. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=64) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755.md?page=66)