# Order of the Stick - Book 6 Discussion Thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 3, 2014, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755 "2014-03-03T16:07:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ac8455/32.png) [@Your\_Great\_Darsh\_Face](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Your_Great_Darsh_Face)\
**Post date:** [August 27, 2015, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1501 "2015-08-27T17:13:37Z")

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Funny you should say that…

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1502 "2015-08-28T00:38:27Z")

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Three hours ago Rich tweeted: “OOTS #1000 is coming later tonight.”

Also, he is making the 2 books “Dungeon Crawling Fools” and “On the Origin of PCs” available as PDFs, with plenty 'o features:

> **[Digital PDF versions of Dungeon Crawlin' Fools, On the Origin of PCs now on...](https://forums.giantitp.com/showthread.php?437208-Digital-PDF-versions-of-Dungeon-Crawlin-Fools-On-the-Origin-of-PCs-now-on-sale)**
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> First: OOTS #1000 is coming later tonight. I just need to get this worked out first. 
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> After literally years of fans telling to do so and me resisting, I am finally capitulating and releasing digital PDF versions of the Order of the Stick books....

I see _Start of Darkness_ didn’t make the cut. Wise move I say: it’s best to see how these do first. Anyway they cost $10 and $15.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1503 "2015-08-28T01:41:50Z")

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> [@Measure\_for\_Measure](#):
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> Three hours ago Rich tweeted: "OOTS #1000 is coming later tonight .

Oh well in that case…

[The Stick has updated episode 1000!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1000.html)

Just, ya know, maybe don’t click on that for, like, another two hours.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1504 "2015-08-28T03:05:55Z")

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Cheater.

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**Author:** ![satogata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@satogata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satogata)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1505 "2015-08-28T03:22:02Z")

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[OOTS #1000 is finally up!](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1000.html)

And it’s worth the wait!

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1506 "2015-08-28T03:29:54Z")

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Duh-duh-duh!

Now I suppose we’ll have to wait 6 months or so for the next strip.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1507 "2015-08-28T03:31:06Z")

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This one’s a winner but damn it all if it’s a long wait for #1001! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1508 "2015-08-28T03:33:23Z")

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> [@satogata](#):
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> . . . And it’s worth the wait!

Oh, yeah. It’s long and it’s meaty.

Now remind me of the prophecy. He will return bringing death? Well, that’s Death, there. Even if no one else dies, that part of the prophecy is fulfilled.

Was there something about destruction, or just death?

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1509 "2015-08-28T03:35:24Z")

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Well, the future of the world is, at this point in the story, pretty safe.

It’s how it gets there that’s the interesting part!

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1510 "2015-08-28T03:38:42Z")

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PS - I like Wrecan and he got a good line.

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**Author:** ![satogata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@satogata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satogata)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1511 "2015-08-28T03:40:03Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Oh, yeah. It’s long and it’s meaty.
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> Now remind me of the prophecy. He will return bringing death? Well, that’s Death, there. Even if no one else dies, that part of the prophecy is fulfilled.
> 
> Was there something about destruction, or just death?

The prophecy was simply that [Durkon would return to his beloved dwarven homelands posthumously.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html) Sure seems satisfied to me.

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**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1512 "2015-08-28T03:45:25Z")

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Jesus, Durkoff has a goddess and (at least) two other vampire clerics in his corner. I don’t see how Roy isn’t toast very quickly.

Although the “Thundershield? Why do I know that name?” dwarf makes me wonder if Roy will get an unexpected ally somehow…

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1513 "2015-08-28T03:47:48Z")

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> [@Yllaria](#):
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> Oh, yeah. It’s long and it’s meaty.

_Phrasing!_

> [@satogata](#):
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> The prophecy was simply that [Durkon would return to his beloved dwarven homelands posthumously.](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0331.html) Sure seems satisfied to me.

That was the Oracle’s prophecy. _Odin’s_ prophecy was that Durkon would bring death and destruction when he returned home.

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**Author:** ![satogata](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df705f/32.png) [@satogata](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/satogata)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1514 "2015-08-28T03:50:27Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> _Phrasing!_
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> That was the Oracle’s prophecy. _Odin’s_ prophecy was that Durkon would bring death and destruction when he returned home.

Och! :smack: Well, mark that one as pretty much fulfilled too…

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1515 "2015-08-28T03:56:37Z")

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So the obvious assumption here is that Durkon raised the couple priests as thralls and they’d vote in favor of ending the world. I suppose that implies that the priests don’t actually cast their own proxies of their respective demigods? Because I’d assume that the thralls would now be priests of Hel. The other possibility is that, in the event of a tie vote, it’s left to a handful of mortals to break it based on their own non-divine decisions?

When Durkon fought Malack, [he (sorta) said](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html) that Roy would be strong enough of will to resist Malack’s _Domination_. And Roy of course has his magic sword with the anti-undead properties. I would guess that his casting disruption trick works equally well on priests as it does on arcane casters. I’m still under the belief that being turned into a vampire doesn’t refill your spell slots in any way and the thrall priests are still depleted of any high level spells.

So how do you suppose Belkar gets back into this fight?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1516 "2015-08-28T03:58:24Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> So how do you suppose Belkar gets back into this fight?

Angrily.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1517 "2015-08-28T04:47:37Z")

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The correct answer was “sexy and shoeless”.

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**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 5:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1518 "2015-08-28T05:21:23Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> So the obvious assumption here is that Durkon raised the couple priests as thralls and they’d vote in favor of ending the world. I suppose that implies that the priests don’t actually cast their own proxies of their respective demigods? Because I’d assume that the thralls would now be priests of Hel. The other possibility is that, in the event of a tie vote, it’s left to a handful of mortals to break it based on their own non-divine decisions?
> 
> When Durkon fought Malack, [he (sorta) said](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0874.html) that Roy would be strong enough of will to resist Malack’s _Domination_. And Roy of course has his magic sword with the anti-undead properties. I would guess that his casting disruption trick works equally well on priests as it does on arcane casters. I’m still under the belief that being turned into a vampire doesn’t refill your spell slots in any way and the thrall priests are still depleted of any high level spells.
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> So how do you suppose Belkar gets back into this fight?

I assume he killed off the ones that would vote against him and left the others

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1519 "2015-08-28T05:23:06Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> Jesus, Durkoff has a goddess and (at least) two other vampire clerics in his corner. I don’t see how Roy isn’t toast very quickly.

Even if it was just Durkon as a non-vampire ; at these levels (and assuming full spell slots on Durkon) Roy would be toasty-toast - most Cleric fuck-you spells are Will based and Fighters just don’t do Will.  
On the other hand, Durkon and his pals \*are \*vampires now. And Roy has learned that undead-gibbing feat to go with his undead-zappy family artefact 😉

I’m not sure Hel is really a factor though. She’s not really here for one thing ; and for another if she started taking an active part in the proceedings all the other gods might take it as their cue to go all Ragnarök up in this popsicle stand. Which doesn’t serve Hel’s purposes since it would disrupt the process of the moot, delay any planetary annihilation and possibly result in the destruction of Yes voters thereby nullifying her whole plan. Even if, looking back on it, the Yes side is packed to the brim with heavy hitters she can’t really take that chance.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 28, 2015, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-6-discussion-thread/682755/1520 "2015-08-28T05:31:54Z")

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> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#):
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> I assume he killed off the ones that would vote against him and left the others

Nah, the two he killed didn’t get a vote.  
[http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0995.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0995.html)

Personally, I think he was just hungry.

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