# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 107
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2124 "2024-08-24T14:31:22Z")
[Tiny Ideas](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1309.html) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2125 "2024-08-24T14:54:04Z")
Ha! That was a very good strip. Power creep of hands, Elan’s terrible idea, AND we are moving the strip along. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2126 "2024-08-24T15:01:05Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Power creep of hands What does this mean? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2127 "2024-08-24T15:08:52Z")
Lien and Sunny are walking into the room. Lien just healed Sunny, who is complaining that “Lay on Hands” is an example of power creep (classes getting more and more powerful features in new versions or updates. The worst example is when a DLC faction in a game is just inherently superior to the base factions). This would lead you to believe that Sunny is upset about how powerful Paladins are getting in new editions, but Lien’s response is humorous because it reveals that actually Sunny is upset about _how powerful hands are_, not Paladins. He thinks “Lay On Hands”, the Paladin healing ability, is an example _of hands getting more powerful_ rather than _Paladins_ getting more powerful (and obviously he is upset by this because he doesn’t have hands). ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2128 "2024-08-24T15:09:59Z")
Sorry my eyes glazed over Lien’s bubble, didn’t spot it. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2129 "2024-08-24T15:12:02Z")
I guess you failed you Spot check ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2130 "2024-08-24T15:34:17Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > ETA: or just petrify him and have Durkon shrink the statue, like he did with Haley that one time. You have officially nailed it. Well done, you. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2131 "2024-08-24T15:52:25Z")
Ta. I’ll ask a mod to go back three weeks and change it so I said “Vaarsuvius” instead of “Durkon.” 😬 ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2132 "2024-08-24T15:54:43Z")
Durkon _fixed_ the statue, so he’s still part of the plan! ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2133 "2024-08-24T15:56:21Z")
You’re very kind. Why is Minrah calling her idea “bad?” ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2134 "2024-08-24T15:58:21Z")
Because it involved deliberately petrifying an ally, which she’s too nice to do. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2135 "2024-08-24T16:07:39Z")
What, is she bucking for an upgrade to paladin status? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2136 "2024-08-24T17:31:36Z")
Nice does not mean Lawful Good, and Lawful Good does not mean Nice. See: Miko. Damn, that was a _long_ time ago. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2137 "2024-08-24T19:29:26Z")
In addition to turning an ally to stone, I assumed it was “bad” just because it was convoluted and involved multiple spells from different casters. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2138 "2024-09-07T15:14:33Z")
1310 - [Like a Rose](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1310.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2139 "2024-09-07T15:55:30Z")
If Belkar were the only survivor, it’s not like it’d be hard for a high-level adventurer to arrange someone else to cast Break Enchantment, anyway. The next tavern he went to would be sure to include five similarly-leveled folks looking to recruit one more. And there’s no way that Belkar would go more than the couple of weeks the spell would cast before entering a tavern. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2140 "2024-09-07T15:58:50Z")
Yeah, I realize it’s in service of the end joke but the chance of everyone else dying, Belkar living and the world NOT ending yet Belkar can’t find a mid-level spell caster afterwards seems like a pretty edge case to complain about, especially considering the current alternative. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2141 "2024-09-07T17:13:47Z")
…and what if by the time Belkar found an Enchantment Breaker, the Shrink Item spell wore off? (That can factor into Belkar’s reluctance. _He_ doesn’t know he’ll be dead within six weeks.) ((How is Bloodfeast going to react when Belkar buys the farm, I wonder?)) (((BTW, is anyone keeping track of how much sand is left in Belkar’s lifetimer? That is, how long did it take the team to get to here since Roy’s resurrection?))) ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2142 "2024-09-07T17:17:17Z")
Forget Bloodfeast. How will Mr. Scruffy react? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2143 "2024-09-07T17:19:04Z")
> [@kaylasdad99](#): > > …and what if by the time Belkar found an Enchantment Breaker, the Shrink Item spell wore off? V says the Shrink lasts for weeks. The Order already knows that this will be wrapped up one way or the other in days at most. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=106) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=108)