# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-strips\
**Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2204 "2024-10-17T21:07:04Z")

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> [@Miller](#):
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> From the DND wiki:
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> > The size of a safe zone was directly related to the intelligence of the individual controller.

Ah well, it was nice knowing you Belkar.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2205 "2024-10-17T22:41:56Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> The plane of Chaotic Neutral alignment is Limbo.

Which means that being short is a real advantage there.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2206 "2024-10-17T22:49:53Z")

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Now, _that_ is a low blow.

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2207 "2024-10-17T23:05:38Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> as per his pyramid fantasy

Was that Belkar’s fantasy or Mr. Scruffy’s? Because it looked like Mr. Scruffy was getting the best deal…

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2208 "2024-10-18T00:12:47Z")

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That was painful.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2024, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2209 "2024-10-18T06:54:45Z")

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> [@Steve\_MB](#):
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> Was that Belkar’s fantasy or Mr. Scruffy’s? Because it looked like Mr. Scruffy was getting the best deal…

Maybe both.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2210 "2024-11-24T14:48:18Z")

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**[Stone Heart](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1313.html)**

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**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2211 "2024-11-24T14:51:04Z")

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Over a month for that?

We already know what they’re doing. Why not at least finish the process by shrinking Bloodfeast, or is he going to spend another month and another whole strip to do that?

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2212 "2024-11-24T15:07:52Z")

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Well, that was worth the wait.

/s

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2213 "2024-11-24T16:57:42Z")

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I, for one, found the scene somewhat moving, especially when Belkar soothes Bloodfeast, who is going mad from terror about what’s happening to him. Or her. Has that been canonically established?

I do agree that a month seemed like a long wait for the strip.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2214 "2024-11-24T17:14:15Z")

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Missed the edit window:

And since we know that Belkar’s prophesied death WILL happen, I’ve just figured out how: He will be mortally wounded, and before (or maybe just after) he expires, Sunny will turn _him_ into stone, so after the ultimate victory, the two of them can be his memorial monument together.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 24, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2215 "2024-11-24T21:50:53Z")

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Poor Bloodfeast knew something was happening.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2216 "2024-11-25T15:47:28Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> Poor BIoodfeast knew something was happening.

…and was freaking out about it, endangering the party, until Belkar stepped up and calmed them (Bloodfeast) down.

(I’m gonna use they/them pronouns for Bloodfeast and Vaarsuvius until and unless I get a confirmed gender verification.)

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2217 "2024-11-25T17:19:53Z")

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It’s kind of hard to tell with reptiloids anyway. At the natural history museum where I volunteer we have a live Gila monster, “Leopold.” In truth we don’t know whether it’s male or female and to determine that would take a cloacal examination by a reptile DVM. While we have one come in once a month to make sure it’s healthy, there’s been no reason to perform the examination.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2218 "2024-11-25T17:23:03Z")

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What if Leopold needs a Pap smear? And the doctor hasn’t even bothered to _check_?

Anyway, I’m fine if Burlew just tells us one way or another.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2219 "2024-11-25T18:07:50Z")

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How do they tell? Presumably, the males look for females and vice versa from time to time.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2220 "2024-11-25T18:45:17Z")

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That would mean that there’s a scent difference between the two, at least when they’re ready to be interested. Would Belkar be able to tell the difference?

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**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\
**Post date:** [November 25, 2024, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2221 "2024-11-25T19:29:01Z")

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Wiki:

> Burlew has an undisclosed chronic illness which sometimes impedes his ability to draw comics and causes periodic delays in schedule. Due to his illness, Burlew reiterated on his website on July 10, 2011 that _The Order of the Stick_ webcomic is produced on “a random schedule … depending on [his] ability to work.”

If Rich could produce comics on a weekly schedule, he could charge for it and attract a sizable audience. Unlike Japan, there aren’t any publishers who can swoop in and provide support staffing. So output is artisanal as is presumably bookkeeping and administration to some extent.

On the plus side, his hit percentage is extremely high according to my tastes. Well north of 90%, possibly around 99%. (YMMV of course.) I read a fair amount of manga, and it’s unlikely that a random page will produce joy.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2222 "2024-11-26T21:35:14Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> It’s kind of hard to tell with reptiloids anyway.

[Indeed](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0177.html).

Which I think also answers @Yllaria 's question.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2223 "2024-11-26T22:12:45Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> [Indeed](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0177.html).
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> Which I think also answers @Yllaria 's question.

Yes. Yes, it does.

And we don’t know whether Allosaurs have intromittent hemipenes (like lizards) or just a cloaca (like most birds).

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