# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 4:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/241 "2020-06-09T04:18:40Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Of course RC probably isn’t going to listen at all. Which makes any thought of hiding disloyalty moot. Oh, he’ll listen, since it’s going to be important he knows about Thor’s plan. But since the Dark One has other plans for the Snarl, he’ll reject Durkon’s proposal outright. He may eventually change his mind about it, but not for a good many strips. Anyone have an idea where Minrah is? We never see her on the ledge. She was ahead of Durkon when they were coming in for landing, so it’s unlikely she saw him leave and then followed. But it’s not impossible, so she may be still windwalking near where Durkon is now. Or landed in that area. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/242 "2020-06-09T05:30:20Z")
My guess is that Minrah is Durkon’s extraction plan if things go wrong. ---
**Author:** ![Calavera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calavera/32/70_2.png) [@Calavera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calavera)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 10:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/243 "2020-06-09T10:31:55Z")
I’d say that the very fact this thread has resurfaced after an extended pause is enough warning. Go to GitP, check current newest comic, then read the thread. If new comics come on a rapid-fire basis due to Burlew’s inherent comic update unpredictability then start spoilering but I’d say a thread bump after an extended gap is more than enough warning and no spoiler boxes are needed. ---
**Author:** ![galen\_ubal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galen_ubal/32/4440_2.png) [@galen\_ubal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/galen_ubal)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 10:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/244 "2020-06-09T10:48:46Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Certainly, in the post announcing the update, and the first few posts following. Someone might otherwise open this thread, and get spoiled before they see the comic. But a few posts is sufficient spoiler space. After that, open spoilers permissible. If someone scrolls down three posts to a spoiler, they only have themselves to blame. > [@puzzlegal](#): > > That was my thought – spoilers are nice in the first couple of posts, but pointless after that. I agree. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/245 "2020-06-09T12:09:02Z")
> [@Calavera](#): > > I’d say that the very fact this thread has resurfaced after an extended pause is enough warning. Exactly. When I see someone has bumped this thread, I immediately open a new tab and bring up the latest strip. The only problem with that is that lately (the last three or so strips), Burlew doesn’t update where the ootslatest shortcut goes to. Nor does he update the buttons that should take you to the next strip and the last strip. At least not immeditaely, he eventually gets around to it. But that’s easily gotten around by adding one to the url that it does take me to. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/246 "2020-06-09T13:36:28Z")
Personally, I find the large font size on the updates to be warning enough. But that’s just me speaking personally. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/247 "2020-06-09T14:39:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Personally, I find the large font size on the updates to be warning enough. But that’s just me speaking personally. I agree. But hey, if someone wants to spoiler the initial response, that’s fine by me. Assuming it’s an actual spoiler (“I can’t believe Xykon was a paladin all this time!”) and not “Haha, that Belkar is at it again!” ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/248 "2020-06-09T14:53:25Z")
I wonder if we’ll see all of Durkon’s and RC’s conversation or if it just shows Durkon coming back saying, “We sorted it out” and we have no clue what is going to happen. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/249 "2020-06-09T16:58:59Z")
Oh, and was anyone else expecting a potted petunia to show up in this one? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/250 "2020-06-09T17:13:41Z")
I wasn’t. Any reason why I should have? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/251 "2020-06-09T17:49:52Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I think the last time Redcloak would have noticed Durkon is Durokon’s dungeon, right? And Redcloak can’t even remember the least fact about Roy (though he recognizes him). So RC probably won’t twig that this random dwarf is in the OOTS. Right? I think the framing of the panel (having Durkon right next to the vandalized statue) is a way of reminding us that Redcloak doesn’t need any particular excuse to hate a random person he doesn’t know. His default assumption is that everyone who isn’t a goblinoid is an enemy. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/252 "2020-06-09T18:00:17Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > [**1204 - Not Again**](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1204.html) > > I really didn’t think Durkon would break his word like that [“Please do not use your last sending spell to contact him.”](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1200.html) Judging by the look on Redcloak’s face, no sending spells were involved. (Nitpicky? Yes. Out of character for Durkon? [No](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0264.html)). ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/253 "2020-06-09T19:00:52Z")
Roy: One of the only advantages—possibly the one single advantage - we possess is the element of surprise. They don’t know we’re coming. If you call him up and let him know we want to talk, we lose that. Durkon: But lad, Thor asked me ta— Roy: And you will. We’re going to talk to him. But not until after we’ve stopped the immediate threat. So please, do not use your last Sending spell to contact him. Durkon: Aye, lad. Wha’ev’r ye think’s best. So, basically, Durkon agreed to three things: 1. Not to ruin the element of surprise 2. Talk to Redcloak _later_. 3. Don’t use the sending spell. Durkon has only really kept to the letter of one of those. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/254 "2020-06-09T20:30:35Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > I wasn’t. Any reason why I should have? Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy reference. [Agrajag](https://hitchhikers.fandom.com/wiki/Agrajag) Lots of spoilers to the books at that link. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/255 "2020-06-09T20:35:14Z")
Aside, the site issues here are just about getting intolerable. I don’t post that much anymore, and I don’t know how more prolific posters are able to put up with the problems. Guess they’re more patient than I am. Now that I think of it, on Alessan’s point that Minrah is Durkon’s ace in the hole for getting out of this situation, how could she help? When faced with someone as powerful as RedCloak, and surrounded by a hostile village? Clerics don’t get spells like Shadow Door or Dimension Door—never mind Teleport—do they? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 9:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/256 "2020-06-09T21:11:08Z")
If Durkon cast [Refuge](https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/refuge.htm) (with the second option), then all he’d need for an extraction plan is a willing accomplice, of any level. Basically, he casts a spell on an object, hands it to her, and any time thereafter, she can break it to teleport him to her. ---
**Author:** ![Grey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b782af/32.png) [@Grey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grey)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 9:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/257 "2020-06-09T21:36:27Z")
Any reason there are no footprints near Durkon as opposed to the other two? ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/258 "2020-06-09T21:47:54Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > If Durkon cast [Refuge](https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/refuge.htm) (with the second option), then all he’d need for an extraction plan is a willing accomplice, of any level. Basically, he casts a spell on an object, hands it to her, and any time thereafter, she can break it to teleport him to her. Neat. Thanks for the info. Still a 7th level spell, which is pretty stout to allocate on something like this, but at least he’s got a way out now. Works better if Minrah’s near the party instead of likely tagging along near him though. Grey, he likely Wind Walked right to them. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/259 "2020-06-09T21:52:27Z")
> [@Grey](#): > > Any reason there are no footprints near Durkon as opposed to the other two? Yes, he arrived in cloud form, and then solidified. He’s still standing where he landed. He hasn’t taken a step since arriving. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [June 22, 2020, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/260 "2020-06-22T13:28:56Z")
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