# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 131
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2604 "2026-03-26T16:01:55Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Almost paralyzed, can barely move at all? But he can move (just weakly) and, in game terms, he should still be able to take some sort of action just as Elan was able to cast a spell. It would just likely be his one action for the round. It seems unlikely that there’s a Strength-based check involved in removing a contact lens. Granted, Burlew happily discards the game world mechanics for plot as it suits him but, reading it, it just makes me think “Well, why couldn’t he remove it?” ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2605 "2026-03-26T16:14:52Z")
Ouch, that’s an unusually bad swypo. Sorry about that. I’m sure that was “fixed” after i saw it. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2606 "2026-03-26T16:25:32Z")
3 strips so far this year puts it far behind last year’s pace, which was a bit less than 2 strips per month. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2607 "2026-03-26T17:42:02Z")
What happens if Sunny does get his lens removed and his anti-magic is pointed at Nale? Nale is supported by the fountain, which is certainly magical. Does he collapse? Or just lose special features like damage reduction and regeneration? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2608 "2026-03-26T17:49:12Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > But he can move (just weakly) and, in game terms, he should still be able to take some sort of action just as Elan was able to cast a spell. It would just likely be his one action for the round. It seems unlikely that there’s a Strength-based check involved in removing a contact lens. It could be dexterity related, with penalties for having never done it before and of course being partially paralyzed. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2609 "2026-03-26T17:55:39Z")
He isn’t taking a dexterity hit though and he’s not paralyzed (since he’s moving and talking). He would be impacted by: Dazed: The creature can take no actions for 1 round, though it defends itself normally. Weakened: The creature’s Strength score decreases by 2d6 points for 2d4 rounds. This could still be the first round and he’s still Dazed though it doesn’t seem like it. And he could then take the action his second round. He isn’t partially paralyzed, he’s just weak which is a different effect. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2610 "2026-03-26T17:59:46Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Niven wrote the well-known essay but it’s not as though he invented or has a monopoly on the idea that tissue paper is fragile or “like tissue paper” as a description of fragility. Huh. I’d always figured the tissue was for cleaning up the mess. Off to the Things Realized After the Millionth Time thread. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2026, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2611 "2026-03-26T19:23:05Z")
I just noticed that Elan forgot to include Blackwing in the heal spell. Not that it makes any difference, since I don’t think he’s been injured, just had his soul taken away for a while. And maybe Elan didn’t forget, but perhaps the effect that protects Blackwing’s body from harm also blocks other spells affecting his body. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2612 "2026-04-13T14:24:56Z")
> **[1342 Told Point Blank - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1342.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2613 "2026-04-13T15:01:10Z")
¡¿ʍɐɹɯ ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2614 "2026-04-13T18:58:03Z")
Now I wanna spade tail. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2615 "2026-04-13T22:29:20Z")
This kind of felt like it should have been a two-page update… It ended before Elan got a chance to say that he cared. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2026, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2616 "2026-04-13T22:39:07Z")
I agree with that. I wonder if some of the others would care. Maybe not as deeply but not want to see what happened to him or think he deserved it but I could be wrong. Thanks for the discussion! ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2617 "2026-04-18T12:22:34Z")
If the universe gets reset, don’t Nale and Sabine go away also? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2618 "2026-04-18T12:26:28Z")
Not if they’re on another plane. Though they might get their memories wiped by the gods. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 12:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2619 "2026-04-18T12:32:46Z")
I’m not sure anyone but the gods knows about the memory-wiping, though. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2026, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2620 "2026-04-18T13:56:09Z")
The IFCC know. Their discovery of that fact is what prompted their current revolution against the gods. Durkon knows, too, because Thor told him. So probably all of the Order knows also. And there might be others the gods have told. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2621 "2026-05-12T13:33:12Z")
**[Gotta Bounce](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1343.html)** ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 1:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2622 "2026-05-12T13:33:37Z")
What are the little red things that look like bugs that cluster around Elan? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2026, 1:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2623 "2026-05-12T13:38:59Z")
Assuming you mean Nale, those are the souls that empower him in his current form. They’re little red featureless dudes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=130) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=132)