# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 136
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2704 "2026-08-11T12:39:42Z")
So the damage reduction would go away, meaning any material would hurt just as bad as the special material(s) would usually? ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 12:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2705 "2026-08-11T12:43:17Z")
That’s my understanding. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2706 "2026-08-11T12:59:37Z")
I don’t think that’s true. An antimagic field suppresses an Supernatural (SU) characteristics of a monster byt not any Extraordinary (EX) effects; but damage reduction is neither an SU or EX effect, it’s just part of a monster’s base stats, like its hit point total. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2707 "2026-08-11T13:53:40Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > I don’t think that’s true. An antimagic field suppresses an Supernatural (SU) characteristics of a monster byt not any Extraordinary (EX) effects; but damage reduction is neither an SU or EX effect, it’s just part of a monster’s base stats, like its hit point total That’s my best guess, too. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2708 "2026-08-11T13:58:33Z")
If you had a Supernatural ability that said something like “SU: You gain DR 5/Silver” that would go away in an antimagic field but if you just have DR on your stat sheet I think it stays. (I don’t know if any 3.5 monsters have such an ability, it’s just an example). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2709 "2026-08-11T14:19:28Z")
Damage reduction that’s overcome by magical, epic, or aligned weapons is supernatural. Damage reduction that’s overcome by materials or by weapon type (piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning) is extraordinary. This is because magic and aligned weapons would lose their properties in an AMF, but materials and damage types still work fine. Some creatures have damage reduction of multiple types (for instance, a powerful devil might have DR /good and silver, or a lich has DR /bludgeoning and magical). In those cases, the magic or alignment part of the DR is suppressed in an antimagic field, but the other part remains. So Nale likely still has DR /silver but not DR /magic or /good, and so Haley can overcome it if she’s using silver arrows (which she may well be; we don’t see the arrowheads, and we know she keeps at least some on hand). It’s worth noting here that Nale’s transformation doesn’t exactly match anything in any of the rulebooks, and so we don’t actually know what kind of DR he has, other than that Roy’s sword does not overcome it (when magic is working). Silver and good (or a combination of those) are relatively common for devils, but his might be something different. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2026, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2710 "2026-08-11T14:40:48Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Damage reduction that’s overcome by magical, epic, or aligned weapons is supernatural. Damage reduction that’s overcome by materials or by weapon type (piercing, slashing, or bludgeoning) is extraordinary. Having looked it up, you are correct! I kinda miss this about 3.5, 5e is a lot simpler but these deep delves into edge cases were kinda fun (when they weren’t happening _at_ the table). > [@Chronos](#): > > In those cases, the magic or alignment part of the DR is suppressed in an antimagic field, but the other part remains. So Nale likely still has DR /silver but not DR /magic or /good Since I looked it up anyways, it looks like youw ere correct above about damage type vs alignment/magic; materials though varies. DR/Adamantine continues to function and is EX byt DR/Silver or Cold Iron is SU and does not. So if Rich is sticking to the rules that closely, Nale is taking full damage here. [https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/77005/is-damage-reduction-a-supernatural-or-extraordinary-ability](https://rpg.stackexchange.com/questions/77005/is-damage-reduction-a-supernatural-or-extraordinary-ability) Nale is getting the best the Lower Planes have to offer, so he could have 15 or even 25 DR, so that’s actually super significant. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2026, 11:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2711 "2026-09-12T11:34:01Z")
Sorry, no new strip (deliberately chose a Saturday to post, as he very rarely has released a new strip on a Saturday). A month and 2 days since the last strip. The year will be 3/4 over next week, and he’s only banked 11 strips so far this year. Last two years he had 22 and 21, but there’s really no way for him to even get to 20 now I’d say. I sympathize with his physical issues, but WI 2-3 years from now he’s only doing 10-12 per year? How many more do we need to wrap up the entire plot? Does he have any assistants, use computer software to help him in any way? It’s amazing to think that when the strip first started he was doing THREE per week, a 150/year pace. Yes, they were less detailed and usually shorter/smaller, but, wow. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2026, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2712 "2026-09-12T11:41:39Z")
Serini took her cloak off and revealed her face 5 and a half years ago. Think of all the pretty much nothing that has happened since. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2026, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2713 "2026-09-12T12:28:18Z")
Since the thread is bumped now anyway, I’ll point out that Nale doesn’t have his aura of souls in the antimagic. Which suggests that it might have turned off all of what the fountain granted him, including (for instance) his strength. He would, in fact, be pretty pathetic with neither that nor his own spells. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2714 "2026-09-21T14:35:26Z")
**1349 - [Oozing Out](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1349.html)** ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2715 "2026-09-21T15:13:54Z")
I’m wondering what Sunny was going to say. In the meantime here’s the status of (don’t split) the party: Corridor - Haley - O-Chul - Lien - (k/o) - Sunny - Mimi Tunnel - Belkar - Durkon - (k/o) - Serini - (k/o) - Minrah - Bloodfeast - (stoned) - Darkwing - (hell) Bottom of Cliff - Roy - Elan - Vaarsuvius - (hell) - Mr Scruffy ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2716 "2026-09-21T16:54:15Z")
Blackwing. ---
**Author:** ![OldManLogan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/oldmanlogan/32/5237_2.png) [@OldManLogan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldManLogan)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2717 "2026-09-21T18:22:58Z")
Blackwing = raven Darkwing = Duck ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2718 "2026-09-21T21:59:53Z")
🎵 When there’s trouble you call D-W! 🎵 ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 21, 2026, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2719 "2026-09-21T22:04:16Z")
> [@blue\_infinity](#): > > I’m wondering what Sunny was going to say. They have something in their eye, and will need to blink soon. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2720 "2026-09-22T02:36:42Z")
So Serini’s cloak is stuck, at least until they open the secret door again. Racking my brain on how that could be a plot point. Only thing I can figure is that it lets the baddies know where the secret door is (but didn’t they see our brave heroes hide in there?) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2721 "2026-09-22T02:40:16Z")
> [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > but didn’t they see our brave heroes hide in there? None of them put any ranks in Spot. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 10:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2722 "2026-09-22T10:53:17Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > A month and 2 days since the last strip. The year will be 3/4 over next week, and he’s only banked 11 strips so far this year. Last two years he had 22 and 21, but there’s really no way for him to even get to 20 now I’d say. I sympathize with his physical issues, but WI 2-3 years from now he’s only doing 10-12 per year? How many more do we need to wrap up the entire plot? Does he have any assistants, use computer software to help him in any way? > > It’s amazing to think that when the strip first started he was doing THREE per week, a 150/year pace. Yes, they were less detailed and usually shorter/smaller, but, wow. Is he still recovering from the damage to his hand? It’s certainly possible to take years to recover from an injury but I would have expected him to do more not less as the years go by. Is he working on other projects that pull from this one? I don’t go to the GitP forums to know if he has spoken about this. Thanks for the discussion! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 22, 2026, 11:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/2723 "2026-09-22T11:59:18Z")
> [@vislor](#): > > Is he still recovering from the damage to his hand? It’s certainly possible to take years to recover from an injury but I would have expected him to do more not less as the years go by. I assume the injury turned out to be something permanent, and it may be getting worse with age. There are lots of types of injuries people never fully recover from. I wonder if he’s still working on the last of those Kickstarter rewards, though. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=135) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=137)