# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 17
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 8, 2020, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/321 "2020-07-08T22:29:56Z")
I can’t remember but it was probably halfway through the first dungeon - certainly before they first met the Linear Guild. Ages ago. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/322 "2020-07-09T00:35:42Z")
For me it was the strip with Elan and Therkla on the island withe the _Lost_ parody. I think it was linked in another thread on this board, probably one of the _Lost_ discussion threads. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/323 "2020-07-09T02:30:59Z")
I want to say, right before the very end of Don’t Split The Party. Darth V had gotten thumped already by that point. (Jeez, I can already imagine the arguments about whether Xykon could do that By The Rules or not, and how powerful did Familicide have to be, and so on.) I started reading here, heard about this funny comic strip, and got hooked. I remember being jarred by the brown palette with the start of Blood Runs In The Family. “Desert?! How’d they get there?” ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/324 "2020-07-09T05:20:19Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > For me it was the strip with Elan and Therkla on the island withe the _Lost_ parody. I think it was linked in another thread on this board, probably one of the _Lost_ discussion threads. [https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0560.html](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0560.html) You must be right about it being linked to something else on this board, because that’s _exactly_ where I came in, too. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Reynolds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_reynolds/32/3707_2.png) [@Jack\_Reynolds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Reynolds)\ **Post date:** [July 9, 2020, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/325 "2020-07-09T23:37:28Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > I agree and I feel this is Burlew’s intent. He made a point that Tarquin was acting on the false premise that he was the central figure of “the story” and everyone else was just a supporting character in a narrative that centered around him. Burlew was saying that everyone is the central figure in their own story and you can’t act as if the universe revolves around you alone. As far as the universe is concerned, it doesn’t matter if you’re Roy Greenhilt or the fifth goblin on the left in a single panel in one strip. Totally agree, but I would not mind a spinoff book afterwards dealing with Tarquin, either his life before the OOTS met him, or how the OOTS come back and clean his clock. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/326 "2020-07-11T15:22:18Z")
I started back when Miko was taking the party into custody. I’m pretty sure I got the link from other Dopers, too, except that I think the link I followed was from some sort of legal thread. ---
**Author:** ![Kimble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kimble/32/19185_2.png) [@Kimble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimble)\ **Post date:** [July 11, 2020, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/327 "2020-07-11T23:29:07Z")
I started OOTS after being amused by its many links in TV Tropes (e.g. Color-Coded For Your Convenience). My reading procedure was to start from the main page, click the latest OOTS comic link, and then click the archive icon. I remember at least two of the comics I tried not to look at were [635](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0635.html) (V’s transformation) and [636](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0636.html) (Suvie and Kyrie’s cottage smashed open by the Ancient Black Dragon). I’m not sure if I caught up before 637, though. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 12, 2020, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/328 "2020-07-12T00:27:52Z")
I think I started around the time they headed into the desert or maybe the tail end of Azure City/Boat Ride. But there was enough of a gap between strips to catch up pretty quickly anyway. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/329 "2020-07-16T12:57:46Z")
[1207](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1207.html) ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/330 "2020-07-16T13:05:48Z")
progress! I do wonder where this is going, though. ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [July 16, 2020, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/331 "2020-07-16T13:06:47Z")
Lets make that a bit more noticeable 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙 💙[1207: Afraid So](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1207.html) ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/332 "2020-07-17T01:32:13Z")
Hate to puncture your ego trip, Reddy, but it’s TDO and the Snarl that are striking fear into the hearts of the gods. You’re a glorified errand boy. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/333 "2020-07-17T02:06:12Z")
Redcloak says the gods are afraid of his plans coming to fruition. Which is true. He never claimed that the gods are afraid of Redcloak. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/334 "2020-07-17T02:30:47Z")
Um, his last line was, “I personally strike fear into the hearts of the gods themselves.” ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 3:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/335 "2020-07-17T03:15:49Z")
I missed that. D’oh. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/336 "2020-07-17T16:27:34Z")
Hubris, meet Nemesis. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/337 "2020-07-17T16:55:34Z")
And the response to Redcloak should be “Maybe you do strike fear into the heart of the Gods. Who cares? The Gods will destroy this world and you in it. They’ll wipe you completely from this plane of existence (and perhaps all planes if doing so also wipes that world’s afterlife system). Then you fail. If your goal is to get The Dark One a seat at the table then continuing with your plan will cause you to fail in that goal. It will cause The Dark One to fail. Worse, because he’s not an acknowledged God by any other deity, there’s no guarantee that he’ll even survive into the next world that’s created. Your plans will fail across all space and time. So if the Gods are scared of your plans…maybe you should be scared of them too.” Or, you know, something like that in a Dwarven accent. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/338 "2020-07-17T17:08:44Z")
Yeah, Durkon has yet to play the ace card and say that The Dark One likely won’t survive if the Gods allow this world to be destroyed/remade. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/339 "2020-07-17T17:13:20Z")
Taking bets! Which way does Redcloak go, from a narrative standpoint? 1. Tragic figure who allows his own prejudices to destroy him and his people. 2. A bitter man who overcomes his hatred to grow and gain wisdom and security for his people 3. Something I haven’t thought of because Burlew’s actually a pretty good writer. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [July 17, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/340 "2020-07-17T17:19:22Z")
I’m sure it’s 3 to some extent. For the plan to work, they really don’t need Redcloak. They just need The Dark One. To get to him, you need the high priest but it’s just now been established that The Dark One doesn’t even communicate with his high priest, which I think could come back into play later. But at the end of the day they just need someone, anyone, who speaks for the Dark One and can get him on Thor’s side. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=16) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=18)