# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 26
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/501 "2020-08-24T13:05:32Z")
God I love Greyview. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/502 "2020-08-24T13:15:11Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > We all hear Oona and Greyview speaking with heavy Russian accents, right? Yes! I do, at least. And, yes, Greyview is awesome!! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/503 "2020-08-24T14:02:21Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > We all hear Oona and Greyview speaking with heavy Russian accents, right? If you don’t, you’re doing it wrong! ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/504 "2020-08-24T15:09:10Z")
Minrah, telling it like it is. You go, girl, smash up Wrongeye good! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/505 "2020-08-24T15:46:56Z")
One wonders if Redcloak will find Minrah’s argument [vaguely familiar…](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0451.html) ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/506 "2020-08-24T17:18:33Z")
> [@Alessan](#): > > We all hear Oona and Greyview speaking with heavy Russian accents, right? It’s either Russian or Pottsylvanian. My inner ear confuses those two. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/507 "2020-08-24T18:23:41Z")
Title: “Hypocritical Hit”. Even after 17 years the D&D gags just keep coming. 👏 Burlew keeps confounding my simple-minded expectations. I anticipate Xykon to showing up soon, so who enters stage left? Oona and Greyview. Then again, I can imagine Xykon enjoying the exchange from further off, albeit for different reasons. Also, Minrah is my favorite character. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/508 "2020-08-24T18:40:14Z")
If Xykon shows up anytime soon, you can kiss Durkon and Minrah goodbye. On the other hand, we don’t really know how good a fighter Oona is. Good enough to survive going into Monster Hollow a few times, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [August 24, 2020, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/509 "2020-08-24T22:57:20Z")
Good thing Reddy’s already in the Arctic. He’s gonna need a lot of ice for that burn. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/510 "2020-09-02T14:21:10Z")
## [1213](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1213.html) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/511 "2020-09-02T15:22:41Z")
Uh oh. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2020, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/512 "2020-09-02T16:52:53Z")
Maybe Oona will turn out to change her mind. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2020, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/513 "2020-09-03T16:32:29Z")
She is noticing that RedCloak really isn’t trying to answer any of her questions. Of course, what choice does she have? Xykon by himself could obliterate her and her village, and a motivated, prepared RedCloak probably could do the same. Humor the foreign, obscenely powerful, NPC party until a better alternative becomes clear. There’s a lively debate at GITP about her alignment—shocking, I know. I think she’s likely True Neutral, maybe shading towards the evil side a hair. Although it is difficult to distinguish Greyview’s hilarious pessimism from the “Nothing Matters’” gray blob that defined the Neutral Evil afterlife. ---
**Author:** ![Powers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Powers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Powers)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/514 "2020-09-05T18:44:30Z")
Uh, Oona is evil, period. Remember what she tried to do to Lien and O’Chul? Powers &8^] ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2020, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/515 "2020-09-05T19:09:16Z")
It’s a D&D world, and she, in her own words to the MITD, …"[Almost got special dinner for you! Saw it while exercising Lancer, but it fell in drink. Two humans, since you said you had one back in city, and liked it best of all."](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1037.html) Bugbears eat people, right? Even if they don’t, she thinks the MITD does. Is hunting a sentient species Evil in a D&D milieu? I know what Burlew would argue, as I understand the guy’s a vegetarian. (With [one of the most clueless attempts](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0875.html) at using the Holocaust as a metaphor for factory farming that I’ve ever read.) Agreed that in our society, trying to kill out of hand two strangers is an Evil act. And it wasn’t like all visitors to the Tomb or village were getting killed. RedCloak sounded like he was fine with letting Durkon go, before he realized Durkon was with Greenhilt. I don’t know how her class of Beastmaster—and reading her discussion of the strict social lines between Beast and Master, I’d guess she’s more Lawful (and Evil) than Neutral----and that she hunts, alters any consideration of what her alignment should be. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/516 "2020-09-07T14:48:53Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > Is hunting a sentient species Evil in a D&D milieu? Not necessarily - but merely being a Bugbear definitely is. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/517 "2020-09-07T16:23:17Z")
[For values of “definitely” that include “usually”](https://www.d20srd.org/srd/monsters/bugbear.htm). Some creatures in D&D are listed as being “always evil”, such as chromatic dragons, fiends, and many undead (though even there, there are rare exceptions). But there’s no “always evil” humanoid race in the game. Some races have a general disposition towards particular alignments, but they’re all free-willed individuals making their own moral choices, and can be anything, just like humans can be. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [September 7, 2020, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/518 "2020-09-07T20:03:21Z")
Baah, new-fangled editions. I’m not going to trust a DnD source that has player character stats for _monsters_. I choose to interpret that “usually” as only applying to the “chaotic” part. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/519 "2020-09-11T18:19:34Z")
## [1214](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1214.html) I promise to rejoin the dialogue. Just really busy right now. Sure Durkon and Minrah have high Wisdom scores? Because Elan would’ve thought they didn’t think things through. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2020, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/520 "2020-09-11T18:22:11Z")
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