# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 35
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/681 "2020-12-19T14:21:58Z")
Neat. Also hard to image Burlew conveying that as successfully with his original art style. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/682 "2020-12-19T14:28:31Z")
And Belkar, as often, is right: Roy is totally cool to murder. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/683 "2020-12-19T14:40:33Z")
Nice! Went as I expected. Rare when that happens. The Order wasted a lot less magic too. Wouldn’t Roy’s sword tip have materialized in front of Xykon? Or did it get—very briefly—teleported over to yet a _third_ area? Wouldn’t Greyview have picked up their scent again, inside the threshold, but before the Teleporter? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/684 "2020-12-19T14:51:18Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And Belkar, as often, is right: Roy is totally cool to murder Belkar doesn’t always speak in the last panel, but when he does, he has the best line of the whole comic ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/685 "2020-12-19T14:59:34Z")
It is really funny. Is it a riff on some other series solving their plot problem in such an abrupt way? Anyone else think that this two page strip looks like two separate one installment strips smushed together? I was scrolling down, read the “I don’t know, kinda played out at this point,” thought that was it. _And then there was more!_ Very Xmas feeling, when you’d forget a present behind the tree or something. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/686 "2020-12-19T15:31:52Z")
I’m trying to hear “_WONNNNH!_” in my head, and failing. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/687 "2020-12-19T15:52:07Z")
One of the GITP posters wondered whether it sounded like a lightsaber. I think more like this [Foley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCbRPxYUOc) of what would be a Star Wars blaster shot. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [December 19, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/688 "2020-12-19T18:42:16Z")
> [@Gray\_Ghost](#): > > I think more like this [Foley](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsCbRPxYUOc) of what would be a Star Wars blaster shot. My mind’s ear is conjuring up something more deeply-pitched, like a force-field generator in a sci-fi show. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/689 "2021-01-19T15:26:07Z")
Whelp, one month later no comic. Did Berlew hurt his hand again? Get arrested for insurrection? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/690 "2021-01-19T15:28:21Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Get arrested for insurrection? LOL that would be too funny! While he doesn’t post about politics, the way his views on inclusivity and gender have evolved, I’m pretty sure Rich is no Trump supporter, though… ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/691 "2021-01-19T15:35:28Z")
Didn’t he say somewhere he was going to be dealing with some of the leftover Kickstarter work? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/692 "2021-01-19T15:56:05Z")
It doesn’t sound like something he would say. He doesn’t usually announce this sort of thing until he’s ready to release. There are many possible reasons for the delay. One possibility is that he’s working on kickstarter, or a new prequel book. But there are many other possible reasons. And he rarely tells us the reason, with the exception of his hand injury. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/693 "2021-01-19T16:16:08Z")
Found it. He had an update email to Kickstarter backers on December 31. Relevant text: > [@](#): > > This is not going to be a full update with a Workometer and everything, this is just a note to let you know what’s been going on. Obviously, I haven’t gotten a lot done on the still-outstanding work left for this Kickstarter in 2020. As I said in a previous update, though: no matter how much time passes, I’m still working on it. On both the digital and physical reward front, there were some obstacles that set my efforts back this year. > > For the digital part, I made a decision to scrap what I was working on with the CPPD story and start over because I was no longer comfortable with some of what I had written. It’s hard to explain without telling you what the problem was, which would defeat the purpose of not releasing it. Suffice to say, it was neither up to my usual quality nor entirely appropriate, and I’ve decided to take the whole thing in a different direction. The upshot is that I’ve been working on one of the other owed digital stories instead, which I hope to release within the first few months of 2021. > > For the crayon drawings that some of you are still waiting on, I’ll be honest and say that I was not about to go inside a post office this year. As you may or may not be aware, I have health issues and I made a decision at the beginning of the pandemic not to take any chances, which I have stuck to with the same stubbornness that I display elsewhere. And it seems as if it was just as well, as there were some well-publicized issues with postal service for much of the year. I would prefer not to mail out one-of-a-kind drawings unless I’m sure they are going to get where they are going safely, but I’m fairly hopeful that by the time I feel OK going out again, that will have been sorted out. > > I want to be clear that these are not intended as excuses, merely explanations in the interest of communication. I’m not asking for any of you to be happy about anything I’ve written here or in the absence of meaningful progress, but it wouldn’t serve anyone for me to not tell you these things. Feel free to still be furious. > > I hope to be back with a true update in a few months. Until then, I hope you all stay safe and have a better 2021. “Update” in this case is referring to the Kickstarter stuff, not the comic itself. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/694 "2021-01-21T13:51:35Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > LOL that would be too funny! > > While he doesn’t post about politics, the way his views on inclusivity and gender have evolved, I’m pretty sure Rich is no Trump supporter, though… We’re going to build Goblintopia and make the Order pay for it! Make Stickworld Great Again! All Goblin Lives Matter! You know I’m automatically attracted to chaotic evil. I just start killing people. It’s like a magnet. Just kill. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a level 22 Lich they just let you do it. You can do anything. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/695 "2021-01-22T15:11:49Z")
[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1223.html](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1223.html) So here’s something interesting Blackwing showed up in the background when Roy travelled backwards through the gate, not the rest of the Order. Does that mean if he went through then went back he’d flip back to cave that Xykon and gang are exploring? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/696 "2021-01-22T18:19:17Z")
Okay, Blackwing just replaced Belkar as the funniest character. _Flap, Flap, Flap, Flap_ ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/697 "2021-01-22T18:26:45Z")
btw, is the dead end Roy saw perhaps an illusion, concealing the Gate? ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2021, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/698 "2021-01-22T18:43:17Z")
Interesting. The short section of the tunnel between the door and the trap must be painted to match the other tunnel. Or (more likely) be composed of a thin layer of rock from the other tunnel. As far as Blackwing being visible behind Roy when he sticks his head through, that tells us something about the trap’s magic. The teleport part of the trap is cross wired. That is, going through the undisabled trap from either way sends one to the other tunnel. But the scrying spell only works for people going in the door and those in the other tunnel going toward the door. People in the other parts of the two tunnels just see straight through. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/699 "2021-01-23T15:51:07Z")
So, as I see it there are two corridors accessible from each doorway, and linked via a trap portal. We can call these sets of corridors X (for Xykon) and O (for Oots). Each X corridor consists of a small dead end, and a large sprawling network of tunnels and rooms filled with monsters. The X corridors are all seperate from one another and sealed off from the outside world, with access only via magic portals. They are probably local - maybe deeper underground, but conceivably could be on the other side of the planet. Each O corridor consists of an 10 foot stretch past a doorway, then a straight corridor going further into the rock. Some or all of these corridors could be linked to each other, and the Gate is probably located in one of them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/700 "2021-01-23T16:33:16Z")
Am I missing something? Is there a reason I’m not seeing why Roy assumes they are in the original tunnel? Or why he assumes Blackwing entered the same tunnel as Team Evil did? It seems like a leap to me to go from knowing there is more than one tunnel to assuming there are a total of two tunnels. I’ll grant there is an additional piece of information Roy didn’t explicitly mention. He knows that Team Evil have been able to exit tunnels and return outside while the teleport line in their tunnel leads to a dead end. And we’ve now seen that Blackwing was also able to exit the tunnel he was in and return outside. But Roy had already concluded that Blackwing was in Xykon’s tunnel before he knew this. It seems like an even bigger leap to me for Roy to assume he’s in the original tunnel and Blackwing and Team Evil were the ones who were teleported to a duplicate tunnel. The evidence of the floor color would suggest that the Order are the ones who were teleported to a duplicate tunnel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=34) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=36)