# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 52
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1022 "2021-05-21T21:21:10Z")
Or he could swallow Redcloak whole, and then spit him out whole, including the amulet that’s still around his neck. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 10:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1023 "2021-05-21T22:05:58Z")
RC is still wearing an amulet, but it’s his backup holy symbol and not the phylactery. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2021, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1024 "2021-05-21T22:53:31Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > RC is still wearing an amulet But not _that_ gold amulet. Point being, you could go in multiple directions to Monkey’s Paw the command. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1025 "2021-05-25T13:47:45Z")
[**1235 Idle Thoughts**](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1235.html) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1026 "2021-05-25T13:53:55Z")
~~Talky~~ thinky man ~~talk~~ think too much. I’m getting super bored with dialog strips. Blah blah blah. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1027 "2021-05-25T14:38:44Z")
I’m assuming this is a deliberate representation of a long wait in order to build up the tension for when something exciting happens. Or it’s just filler. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1028 "2021-05-25T14:46:14Z")
I, for one, am absolutely disgusted at the implication that a bard like Elan with his considerable Charisma score and class/skill modifiers could fail to Persuade anyone to talk to him. I will be running the math to show how improbable this is statistically and posting the results to my blog. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1029 "2021-05-25T14:52:40Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > ~~Talky~~ thinky man ~~talk~~ think too much. > > I’m getting super bored with dialog strips. Blah blah blah. Don’t worry. This page is obviously a segue - giving us some humor and reminding us where all the character are. The next one will have action. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1030 "2021-05-25T14:59:05Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > ~~Talky~~ thinky man ~~talk~~ think too much. > > I’m getting super bored with dialog strips. Blah blah blah. I think the previous stuff was important setup. But I agree this one is boring. Usually the filler stuff is at least humorous, but the joke here just doesn’t work for me. Elan thinks to himself all the time, coming up with elaborate plans. And only two people said they didn’t want to talk. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1031 "2021-05-25T15:10:03Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > I’m assuming this is a deliberate representation of a long wait in order to build up the tension for when something exciting happens. > > Or it’s just filler. I, too, think this isn’t a great strip, but it’s purpose is to make it feel like they are waiting. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 25, 2021, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1032 "2021-05-25T15:10:24Z")
I mean, this is 1235 and [1230](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1230.html) was also a filler Elan strip. ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 3:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1033 "2021-05-26T03:36:24Z")
I enjoyed the strip. In Stickworld precious few humans care about the plight of the Goblins and much like realworld most don’t have the temperament to open themselves up to practical moral philosophy. Just the way it is. Sure Belkar is a homicidal sociopath, but his perspective in this strip isn’t very far from typical. Elan is clearly an extrovert who gets his energy from interacting with other people, to the point that he has difficulty imaging those like V who get their energy from being alone. Learn to filter Elan! ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1034 "2021-05-26T03:45:40Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > I think the previous stuff was important setup. But I agree this one is boring. Usually the filler stuff is at least humorous, but the joke here just doesn’t work for me. Elan thinks to himself all the time, coming up with elaborate plans. And only two people said they didn’t want to talk. It didn’t work for me because Elan chose Belkar as the first person he tried to talk to. He would have chosen Haley first. After she told him she couldn’t have talked, he would have tried Belkar, Minrah, and Vaarsuvius in that order. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1035 "2021-05-26T04:56:15Z")
When Serini pops out next strip and amnesias most of the group except Elan because she realizes he’s a dope with no long term memory, which OOTS member should Elan cast Song of Freedumb on to give them their memory back first? ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1036 "2021-05-26T13:01:04Z")
Of _course_ Elan used Roy’s sword to peel potatoes. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2021, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1037 "2021-05-26T14:26:24Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > When Serini pops out next strip and amnesias most of the group except Elan because she realizes he’s a dope with no long term memory, which OOTS member should Elan cast Song of Freedumb on to give them their memory back first? Elan is self-aware enough to know he isn’t good at making those kind of decisions. So he would revive Roy first so Roy could tell him what to do. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2021, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1038 "2021-05-27T20:23:47Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > I mean, this is 1235 and [1230](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1230.html) was also a filler Elan strip. I feel like this is preparing for belkar’s death. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 9:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1039 "2021-05-28T09:45:49Z")
It does remind me of the preparations for the assault on the vampire dwarves (strips 1106-1116). For dramatic reasons, if nothing else, it seems that whenever the gang are most prepared to take on powerful foes things usually go horribly wrong, whereas where they’re caught off guard (e.g. the battle with Tarquin’s army in the desert) they improvise well. By that metric, something is going to go horribly wrong shortly (and may well involve Serini). ETA: Honestly, at this point in the narrative I’d be shocked if something actually went according to the original plan. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 10:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1040 "2021-05-28T10:02:57Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Honestly, at this point in the narrative I’d be shocked if something actually went according to the original plan. They discussed their plan out loud. Elan should have told them that’s a surefire way to make sure nothing will go according to that plan. Compare to the last time they set up an ambush (of the Linear Guild in the pyramid) and they didn’t discuss them, or at least not in the hearing of the audience. Things went swimmingly. So if Serini doesn’t show up before Xylon and RC, it’ll be a real surprise. Or maybe they’ll show up at the same time. That would be real fun. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [May 28, 2021, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1041 "2021-05-28T13:52:35Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > Compare to the last time they set up an ambush (of the Linear Guild in the pyramid) and they didn’t discuss them, or at least not in the hearing of the audience. Things went swimmingly. When they fought Vampire Durkon, they didn’t discuss the plans for us to read and things went great… until they didn’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=51) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=53)