# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Reno\_Nevada](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Reno\_Nevada](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reno_Nevada)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/101 "2020-03-12T02:14:36Z")
I hope Belkar winds up with Shojo, drinking single-malt scotch and smoking cigars rolled with poorly-written legal documents. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/102 "2020-03-12T03:05:35Z")
It’ll be a major character-development victory if, by the end of his life, he’s counted as Chaotic Neutral instead of Evil. No way he makes it all the way to Good. But then, when you’re starting at 5 kiloNazis, you take what you can get. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/103 "2020-03-12T04:33:20Z")
Nitpick - he was never at 5 KN. When he met Roy, he was over 3 KN, and projected to rise to 8 or more. Under Roy’s influence he decreased to about one half a KN, and has likely decreased still further since then. [http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0489.html](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0489.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 12, 2020, 11:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/104 "2020-03-12T11:19:19Z")
Ah, right, 5 kNz was the hypothetical offspring of Cruella deVille and Sauron. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/105 "2020-03-16T13:49:54Z")
[1195: People First](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1195.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 16, 2020, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/106 "2020-03-16T14:37:54Z")
Huh, the new layout includes the title of the comic at the bottom. I never noticed that before; it’s a good change. Previously there was no easy way to see the title of a non-current comic. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/107 "2020-03-23T17:27:37Z")
[1196: Not Yet Seasoned](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1196.html) ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/108 "2020-03-23T17:32:10Z")
I’m trying to remember what dad agreed to, if it was stated. ---
**Author:** ![Calavera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calavera/32/70_2.png) [@Calavera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calavera)\ **Post date:** [March 23, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/109 "2020-03-23T18:54:31Z")
Never seeing his family again. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 24, 2020, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/110 "2020-03-24T23:08:49Z")
I remember that now. ---
**Author:** ![chorpler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chorpler/32/2888_2.png) [@chorpler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chorpler)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/111 "2020-03-31T00:03:39Z")
[1197: Incidental Reconnaissance](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1197.html) ---
**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/112 "2020-03-31T00:23:49Z")
Never change, Elan. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/113 "2020-03-31T01:19:47Z")
What I don’t see on that map are any creatures, the Paladins’ ex-scouting post, or any hint of the two mysterious Outsiders who abducted them. Which means they either got out of Haley and V’s search locus, or they’ve enough illusion or camouflage to fade a 16th level Rogue’s (admittedly-less-than-grand) Spot or Search skills and a 16th level Wizard probably running True Seeing and any other Divination spell s/he can think of. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/114 "2020-03-31T12:49:44Z")
Elan, breaching the boundaries between the diegetic and non-diegetic. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/115 "2020-03-31T13:17:27Z")
I laughed out loud at the ‘hex grid’ comment. ---
**Author:** ![Gray\_Ghost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c0e974/32.png) [@Gray\_Ghost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gray_Ghost)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/116 "2020-03-31T14:02:56Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > I laughed out loud at the ‘hex grid’ comment. Made me think of lighter-hearted times in the strip: [175 Darn You to Hex - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0175.html) I wonder how the Order will start? Hide, and see if they can ambush Team Evil after a dungeon crawl? Try to find the paladins? ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/117 "2020-03-31T14:30:32Z")
The paladins, especially O-Chul, are enormous assets against Team Evil. Roy’s not dumb enough not to want to connect and coordinate with them. O-Chul is, perhaps literally, the toughest person in the world and absolutely committed to good. Sort of an anti-Xykon. If anyone can communicate with Redcloak it’ll be O-Chul. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/118 "2020-03-31T19:18:43Z")
> [@Jonathan\_Chance](#): > > The paladins, especially O-Chul, are enormous assets against Team Evil. Roy’s not dumb enough not to want to connect and coordinate with them. O-Chul is, perhaps literally, the toughest person in the world and absolutely committed to good. Sort of an anti-Xykon. If anyone can communicate with Redcloak it’ll be O-Chul. Redcloak might still [hold a grudge](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0655.html). ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2020, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/119 "2020-03-31T20:53:59Z")
I don’t think he would hold a grudge… for that. Until Xykon shot him down, he considered the loss of the eye a minor inconvenience. What he might hold a grudge for, is that O-Chul is a member of the paladin order that destroyed his village and slew most of his friends and family. Without knowing, of course, that he _also_ joined that order only to reform it from within, after stopping them from slaying other goblins. Actually… That’s an interesting question. Jirix was probably present for that. I think he was probably, in fact, the Supreme Leader that O-Chul negotiated with. If Jirix recognizes him, he might remember that, and might have told Redcloak about it. Which might even make Redcloak more amenable to negotiating with him. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2020, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/120 "2020-04-01T00:10:08Z")
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