# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 63
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1243 "2021-09-16T17:42:02Z")
When V casts Dispel Magic, the glowing mote is back over their head. No real reason for it. It’s supposedly a standard Light spell ([cast here](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1237.html)) but Light doesn’t make a glowing mote follow you around and should have been dispelled but I guess it’s just another case of “3.5e rules are a guideline at best” ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1244 "2021-09-16T17:45:05Z")
Since it’s up in the air, it could be within 20 feet horizontally, but not within 20 feet of the center of the Dispel. Looks like the center is where Haley is, so this is plausible. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1245 "2021-09-16T17:45:29Z")
I would like to note that Serini has the paper coming _over the top of the roll_, as the Gods intended. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1246 "2021-09-16T17:46:05Z")
Jophiel is correct, I meant the glowing ball as seen in panel 6. Why wasn’t that dispelled? ---
**Author:** ![Uniqueorn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/uniqueorn/32/2807_2.png) [@Uniqueorn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uniqueorn)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1247 "2021-09-16T19:57:44Z")
That makes her lawful good, right? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1248 "2021-09-16T20:02:29Z")
> [@silenus](#): > > I would like to note that Serini has the paper coming _over the top of the roll_ , as the Gods intended. Not if you own a cat. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2021, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1249 "2021-09-16T21:38:48Z")
I am owned by four. They are all supremely indifferent to toilet paper, thank Ghu! ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1250 "2021-10-05T00:16:21Z")
**[1245 Sales Boom Imminent](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1245.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1251 "2021-10-05T07:12:00Z")
A pointy rock monster _and_ the 14th President of the United States. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1252 "2021-10-05T15:26:48Z")
OK, so what _is_ Franklin, bestiary-wise? I like how V was taking notes at the end on how to repel Belkar ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1253 "2021-10-05T15:32:55Z")
It’s a [piercer](https://www.aidedd.org/dnd/monstres.php?vo=piercer). ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1254 "2021-10-05T17:11:27Z")
Thanks – so, a creature that looks like a stalagmite until it drops, and not really high enough level to give the Order much trouble. Also, it’s not supposed to have language. But I guess that’s okay. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1255 "2021-10-05T17:15:29Z")
Per the rules, they’re just animals, and not particularly bright ones. I’m not sure if the one in the comic has language, or is just trained to recognize it’s own name and attack. Of course, there’s also magic that you can use to grant an animal human intelligence, so possibly this one is exceptional. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1256 "2021-10-05T17:15:49Z")
Stalac_tite._ ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1257 "2021-10-05T17:24:56Z")
Oops, i can never keep those straight. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1258 "2021-10-05T17:28:28Z")
As a kid I learned Stalactite holds tight to the roof and stalagmite forces its way up with might. Never ever forgotton which one is which. ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1259 "2021-10-05T17:32:05Z")
I learned that stalactites are on the ceiling and stalagmites are on the ground. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1260 "2021-10-05T22:04:46Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Also, it’s not supposed to have language. But I guess that’s okay. It’s also supposed to, you know, _pierce_ its prey rather than bite it but I guess Franklin is a Very Special Piercer. Early AD&D had a lot of monsters that were essentially “traps with hit points”. Piercers weren’t expected to make for a meaningful combat encounter, they were supposed to drop on the unwary party as a ‘fuck you’ from the DM and cause the group to lose some hit points or healing potions, etc. It was, if my memory serves, the first monster _Dragon Magazine_ attempted to give an ecology to make some sort of sense out of, explaining it as a type of carnivorous snail that would drop, business end down, hopefully killing whatever was underneath before extending itself out to eat its prey. ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1261 "2021-10-05T22:20:20Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Early AD&D had a lot of monsters that were essentially “traps with hit points”. See also the Cloaker, the Cave Fisher and the ever-popular Mimic. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2021, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1262 "2021-10-06T14:25:01Z")
A piercer, which fell from the ceiling, Left the whole of the search party reeling. “It’s a good thing,” they said, That it hit Daffith’s head. For where there’s no sense, there’s no feeling." [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=62) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=64)