# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-strips\
**Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1303 "2021-11-16T18:46:34Z")

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I just hope that now they’re (arguably) no longer in “hot pursuit,” they head back and retrieve the others. _Basta!_ with splitting the party!

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1304 "2021-11-16T19:27:14Z")

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> [@squeegee](#):
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> “See you soon, Sunshine!” Which means Serini is expecting them to pass that wall and it’s a trap.

Or as Haley pointed out, Serini can pop back in for a (sneak?) attack (and possibly bring minions).

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1305 "2021-11-16T19:40:54Z")

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Or she’s talking to Sunny?

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**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1306 "2021-11-16T19:52:58Z")

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Passwall is one of V’s spells (he used it in the Pyramid), so why did he feel the need to acquire a scroll for it?

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1307 "2021-11-16T20:16:31Z")

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In order to have it in his back pocket on days that he didn’t have it memorized. You can do that with spells you don’t expect to use often enough to memorize but which might prove useful on rare occasions.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1308 "2021-11-16T20:18:46Z")

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Also, they wouldn’t have acquired it, they’d have created it. Wizards get a “scribe scroll” ability at first level, so they can give themselves a supply of back up spells above and beyond what they can normally memorize in a day.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1309 "2021-11-16T22:24:48Z")

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> [@dtilque](#):
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> Passwall is one of V’s spells (he used it in the Pyramid), so why did he feel the need to acquire a scroll for it?

\<Elan\>  
To make for a more dramatic reveal, of course!  
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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1311 "2021-11-26T15:31:20Z")

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[**Rate a Leaving**](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1249.html)

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1312 "2021-11-26T15:31:41Z")

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Nice Thanksgiving present from Burlew.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1313 "2021-11-26T15:35:49Z")

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O-Chul gets a punchline! Nice!

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1314 "2021-11-26T16:16:55Z")

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Saying that V rescued _him_ back then is a mark of saint-like modesty.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1315 "2021-11-26T17:29:07Z")

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He may well believe it. He has every reason to believe the friendly wizard did it and no reason to believe the MitD did it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1316 "2021-11-26T17:29:07Z")

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V was a crucial part of his escape. I’d say it’s accurate enough, even if he is humbly downplaying his own essential part of the process.

Of course, Monster-San was even more essential than either of them, and he’s not mentioning him, not out of modesty, but simply because he’s not relevant to the current topic of conversation.

At least, probably… Someone’s got to point out eventually that all of the forces of Good here combined just might be able to beat Xykon, even if none of them could individually, and in that case, it would be quite relevant indeed that one of those forces of Good is one whom Xykon is currently regarding as his most powerful ally.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1317 "2021-11-26T17:35:25Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> He has every reason to believe the friendly wizard did it and no reason to believe the MitD did it.

No, [he knows](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0663.html). Or at least suspects - see the line about having questions for a learned scribe.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [November 26, 2021, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1318 "2021-11-26T17:37:17Z")

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Hmm…I’d forgotten about that.

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1319 "2021-12-13T14:50:38Z")

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New one:  
[https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1250.html](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1250.html)

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**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1320 "2021-12-13T14:54:14Z")

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Dude, Awesome.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1321 "2021-12-13T14:57:29Z")

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Oooh, fun!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1322 "2021-12-13T14:58:14Z")

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Okay, I’ll ask the obvious question; how did Lien reach that ball?

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**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1323 "2021-12-13T15:04:22Z")

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In the previous one, her right hand was hidden in every panel.

I thought that she was trying to undo the manacles. Evidently not.

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