# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 69
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1364 "2022-01-08T16:35:15Z")
They have the same sort of bond that any pet and pet-owner have. That’s a mundane bond. Like I said, Bloodfeast took a liking to Belkar. But Belkar and Mr. Scruffy (or Lien and Razor) have a special bond that goes beyond that. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1365 "2022-01-08T17:16:22Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Golden goose, and all that? Although Belkar strikes me as the type who’d grasp an immediate gain over future income. …and it’s not as though he’s got much future… ---
**Author:** ![GreysonCarlisle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a87d85/32.png) [@GreysonCarlisle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreysonCarlisle)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1366 "2022-01-08T19:05:30Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@GreysonCarlisle](#): > > > > Last we saw of Bloodfeast, he was biting a cat’s tail. I wonder whatever became of him. I imagine that we will find out next time. > > In the sense discussed here, Bloodfeast isn’t the “ranger’s ferocious beast”; the cat is. Fine. The last we saw of Mr. Scruffy, his tail was being bitten by a lizard. The point is that Belkar did deploy his animal arsenal, and helpfully so, despite V’s taunts to the contrary. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1367 "2022-01-08T19:48:33Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > Sure they do. Belkar freed Bloodfeast from his cage in the arena, then rescued him from life as a battle mount. Bloodfeast remembers. Yes, but that doesn’t give either of them any stat bonuses. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1368 "2022-01-08T19:56:08Z")
> [@DesertDog](#): > > Although Belkar strikes me as the type who’d grasp an immediate gain over future income. Setting aside the Oracle thing, we’re talking very immediate gain since the gods are about to destroy the world. Even Belkar can probably see the flaw in that reward. Plus the whole “maybe trying to be less selfishly evil” thing. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2022, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1369 "2022-01-08T20:24:03Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > In the sense discussed here, Bloodfeast isn’t the “ranger’s ferocious beast”; the cat is. Scruffy is Belkar’s animal companion, to whom he has a special bond, and who has statistics considerably higher than one would expect for a creature of its type. [And we know Mr Scruffy can be used as a weapon.](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0520.html) ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1370 "2022-01-10T05:32:48Z")
Re-reading the strip (was catching up on my webcomics aggregator), I’m thinking that V was just trolling Belkar for having a housecat as his bonded companion versus Lien’s halfling-eating shark mount. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 7:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1371 "2022-01-10T07:14:37Z")
… says the guy(?) with a bird. ---
**Author:** ![DerNils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerNils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerNils)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1372 "2022-01-10T08:01:30Z")
He’s taking the piss out of Belkar AND the forumites who’ve been clamouring for Bloodfeast to get dispelled by the Anti Magic Eye-Beam. The Giant at his best 😉 And I think Belkar makes it clear that he is not even considering this, he is just so fascinated by all the Granny talk (btw, ALSO a nice take on forum theories that put Serini as Belkars ancestor) ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1373 "2022-01-10T13:43:11Z")
> [@DerNils](#): > > He’s taking the piss out of … the forumites … a nice take on forum theories Doubtful. He makes a point of not reading the forum any more. He usually doesn’t know what they are saying. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1374 "2022-01-10T15:13:10Z")
V has a Familiar, not an Animal Companion. Familiars aren’t _supposed_ to be combat effective - by default, they’re small, vulnerable, and weak critters like ravens and toads - and house cats. A ranger’s Animal Companion, on the other hand, is a major class feature that is supposed to be a significant element of the ranger’s combat effectiveness. By default, they’re powerful, aggressive predators, like lions and tigers and bears, oh my. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2022, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1375 "2022-01-10T15:41:33Z")
> [@gdave](#): > > V has a Familiar, not an Animal Companion. Familiars aren’t _supposed_ to be combat effective - by default, they’re small, vulnerable, and weak critters like ravens and toads - and house cats. Which is why the famous “[BIRD TO THE FACE](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0935.html)” move is not generally used. And housecats are only deployed against Commoners. ---
**Author:** ![DerNils](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f14d63/32.png) [@DerNils](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DerNils)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 12:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1376 "2022-01-11T12:04:34Z")
I am aware, but he is eerily good at guessing what the fans get hung up about 😉 ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1377 "2022-01-11T14:34:16Z")
He’s just that good. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2022, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1378 "2022-01-11T22:28:18Z")
Oh, yet another flaw with Serini’s “plan” from last update: As of right now, she’s no help to the Order, because she refuses to help beat Xykon, because it’ll endanger the Gates. But if she were to lose all her memory of the Gates, then she’d presumably be much easier to persuade… while still being an epic-level rogue with lots and lots of magical toys. Dunking herself in amnesia potion wouldn’t just be neutral from the Order’s point of view; it’d be a huge improvement in the situation. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1379 "2022-01-22T13:13:00Z")
[Tied up nicely: 1252](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1252.html) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1380 "2022-01-22T13:31:50Z")
Probably to be expected, when you put someone like Elan and someone like Sunny in the same room together. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1381 "2022-01-22T15:37:33Z")
Of what possible use (to Serini) is wiping someone’s short term memory, which is [believed to be on the order of seconds](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Short-term_memory)? ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1382 "2022-01-22T15:56:47Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Probably to be expected, when you put someone like Elan and someone like Sunny in the same room together. Get MITD in with them and you’ll have a trifecta. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2022, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1383 "2022-01-22T15:59:45Z")
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