# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 73
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1444 "2022-04-26T23:18:04Z")
I love all the different interpretations of the title: First, obviously, the episode ends with the major characters basically agreeing. Second, that agreement was largely brokered by Belkar, the only one whose eyes are at the same level as Serini’s. And third, of course, you have the Eleven Puppy Dog Eyes. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2022, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1445 "2022-04-26T23:26:29Z")
And of course the Lawful types can’t get their message across to the chaotic halfling. It take their own chaotic types to find a common viewpoint. It’s not the first time that Rich has shown the problem with the inflexibility of the lawful personality type. The older paladin though, he has a high enough WIS to sort of see the advantages of a little chaos. ---
**Author:** ![ekedolphin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ekedolphin/32/10003_2.png) [@ekedolphin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ekedolphin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1446 "2022-04-27T01:04:12Z")
> [@Hypno-Toad](#): > > The older paladin though, he has a high enough WIS to sort of see the advantages of a little chaos. And Lien realized the tide was turning against her and wisely shut up. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1447 "2022-04-27T08:25:35Z")
But she did a cool thing with the shark! ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 9:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1448 "2022-04-27T09:53:07Z")
I don’t agree that it was down hill for her since then. She also [did this](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1035.html). ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1449 "2022-04-27T10:01:48Z")
I think she meant the more recent cool thing with the shark. Like, ten minutes earlier. ---
**Author:** ![vislor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/vislor/32/5933_2.png) [@vislor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vislor)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1450 "2022-04-27T13:37:07Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > And third, of course, you have the Eleven Puppy Dog Eyes. I like how two of those are Elan’s! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2022, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1451 "2022-04-27T23:09:20Z")
Though I still love the exchange from that strip: “Trust me.” “Always.” ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1452 "2022-05-01T15:22:54Z")
Now that “we’re all friends” how many existing sides do you think there are to this conflict that still have a major part to play and pretty much want the same outcome? I’d say 1. OotS, Sapphire Guard, Thor and all the gods that want to preserve the world, Serini and Sunny. 2. Xykon 3. Redcloak, and maybe the Dark One 4. IFCC 5. The Snarl, (with Vector Legion pawns maybe) 6. Gods not down with saving the world 7. MitD. (Almost certain to end up on side 1, but certainly not there yet, clearly not still on side 2 or 3) 8. The Dark One, (if he’s lying to Redcloak, otherwise part of side 3) ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1453 "2022-05-01T16:37:27Z")
3 - I think Redcloak and DO are a single side. There’s never been any hint of Redcloak being other than completely devoted to the plan. And no reason for DO to lie. 5 - I don’t think the Snarl is a side as such, more like the prize they’re all playing for. Tarquin and Co. are definitely a side though. 6 - I can’t see any of these Gods taking action here - they don’t have any ‘pieces’ in play and Hel lost hers. 7 - Not a side by himself. Also: > Gate? What Gate? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2022, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1454 "2022-05-01T16:49:22Z")
Oh, and since nobody else has mentioned it: Of course Lien is familiar with what mermen wear on their nethers. Or don’t, as the case may be. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 9:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1455 "2022-05-03T09:44:56Z")
Don’t forget Tarquin and his cohort (minus Malack), and the anti-Tarquin group (including Ian Starshine, the bounty hunters and almost certainly Sabine). Also Hilgya is sort of a side on her own, but I’d tack her onto the protagonists’ group in a broader sense. ---
**Author:** ![CardboardBoxx](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cardboardboxx/32/7079_2.png) [@CardboardBoxx](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CardboardBoxx)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1456 "2022-05-03T10:01:44Z")
Is Hilgya really a side? I included MitD because he probably will play a pivotal role. I’m not ruling antyhing out but as far as the main plot is concerned think Hilgya is probably done. Sabine I would now include under IFCC as she no longer has any Linear Guild. It’s hard to say what’s happening in #945 but I think it’s Milo and Laurin getting brainwashed by the Snarl; if so it’s possible that they could convince Jacinda and nameless, and possibly even Tarquin to come close enough for it to happen to them. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 10:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1457 "2022-05-03T10:05:58Z")
> [@CardboardBoxx](#): > > Sabine I would now include under IFCC as she no longer has any Linear Guild. I dunno - she’s still working for the IFCC but she’s got a personal vendetta against Tarquin. So maybe she’s on two sides (which do not appear to be in opposition, so no issues there). > [@](#): > > It’s hard to say what’s happening in #945 but I think it’s Milo and Laurin getting brainwashed by the Snarl; if so it’s possible that they could convince Jacinda and nameless, and possibly even Tarquin to come close enough for it to happen to them. Hard to tell until we see them again, but I’m not sure there’s a point in having an anti-Tarquin resistance in the story if Tarquinand his friends are just going to be borgified by the Snarl. Although I suppose they could be part of an anti-Snarl storyline. Way too early to say. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1458 "2022-05-03T16:19:56Z")
> [@CardboardBoxx](#): > > It’s hard to say what’s happening in #945 but I think it’s Milo and Laurin getting brainwashed by the Snarl; i Myron, I think. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2022, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1459 "2022-05-03T16:39:32Z")
Miron. Miron Shewdanker. And Miron seems to be pulling Laurin to safety. As for Laurin - she looks to be “fascinated” or possibly “dazed” - those are the two most likely conditions from their descriptions. And they’re quite temporary. I’m guessing they’ll both be fine. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1460 "2022-05-13T13:50:13Z")
**[1257: Mental Block](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1257.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1461 "2022-05-13T13:53:04Z")
Roy, um…using some interesting words there. Also: nice Snarl picture. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1462 "2022-05-13T13:54:11Z")
Poor Roy ☹ and with his luck the two goblins playing Junior Detective are going to figure out the teleporters now. After all, Roy just went over the plan out loud, which means it will never happen as described… ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2022, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1463 "2022-05-13T14:00:16Z")
I think Roy should be over-joyed right now rather than upset. Book 4 wasn’t _that_ long ago. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=72) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=74)