# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 77
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1524 "2022-07-05T18:19:00Z")
The story about Oona’s cousin is more foreshadowing evidence that Redcloak is not following the Dark One’s true plan. Interesting that Redcloak and Roy have the same flaw; they both have a strong tendency to feel that what they assume is true is a fact and to dismiss any other possibilities. Roy, at least, has gotten somewhat better and is occasionally able to step back and check his assumptions. Redcloak is still stuck in this. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [July 5, 2022, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1525 "2022-07-05T18:33:58Z")
Yeah, Rich likes to portray the Lawful folks as thinking their opinions are facts. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1526 "2022-07-18T14:18:43Z")
**[1262 Two Villages](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1262.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1527 "2022-07-18T14:37:39Z")
Chronos is thinking that Oona is being very insightful. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1528 "2022-07-18T14:37:40Z")
“Oona is pretty sure she knows what little caped man would choose.” Hmm… ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1529 "2022-07-18T15:12:27Z")
_Cruel Flippers of Entropy_ is now going to be the name of my bardcore covers band. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1530 "2022-07-18T17:11:26Z")
Making the subtext into text, I see. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 18, 2022, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1531 "2022-07-18T22:32:33Z")
The thought occurs to me: When Redcloak eventually dies, one way or another, if we see it happen in the strip… I think we might literally see him walking over the bridge from Right-All-Along into Doing-Very-Best-for-Goblins. Is real places! Is trying to go to villages! They are real! ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 19, 2022, 8:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1532 "2022-07-19T08:24:14Z")
And then he gets eaten by a dolphin. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1533 "2022-07-27T11:35:55Z")
[1263: Assorted Situational Uses](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1263.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1534 "2022-07-27T11:58:10Z")
The roaches are like a tiny red insectoid Statler and Waldorf. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1535 "2022-07-27T12:06:36Z")
Interesting development. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1536 "2022-07-27T12:08:48Z")
If he’s just doing Detect Evil, won’t Belkar mess up the scans? He’s not evil enough enough to “linger for days”, but the Order is much more recently in the area. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1537 "2022-07-27T12:09:40Z")
Won’t HE mess up his own scans? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1538 "2022-07-27T12:11:19Z")
He’s mostly been with Xykon in the maze, so that won’t matter. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1539 "2022-07-27T12:15:10Z")
The place is also packed full of monsters, and I’d expect at least some of them to evil and sufficiently powerful to register, too. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1540 "2022-07-27T12:26:03Z")
> [@puzzlegal](#): > > Won’t HE mess up his own scans? In the flashback Redcloak was using the spell to check if Xykon had been snooping in Redcloak’s room. So I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1541 "2022-07-27T13:49:53Z")
The gap for a lingering aura is up to an hour for “Strong” evil and potentially six days for “Overwhelming”. I doubt Belkar, at his worst, even rose above “Moderate” which is in minutes. However, I had the impression that Team Evil has been here for a week or two at least so the best Redcloak could do is confirm doors they were in recently. Older ones would need to be rechecked for monsters since Xykon’s aura would have faded. I see Oona has exited the save without noticing the trap. Even if Redcloak started using other detection magic to try to solve the marked door issue, it’s likely he’d skip that door since they just came out of it. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1542 "2022-07-27T17:45:10Z")
Belkar is just an ordinary evil creature, somewhere between 11 and 25 HD, so his aura is only moderate. Xykon is an undead of 21 or more HD, and Redcloak is a cleric of an evil deity of level 11 or higher, so both are overwhelming. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1543 "2022-07-27T18:16:44Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Belkar is just an ordinary evil creature, somewhere between 11 and 25 HD And about half a Kn. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=76) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=78)