# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** comic-strips\
**Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1544 "2022-07-27T18:20:26Z")

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And the Monster doesn’t seem to have an evil aura at all.

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**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1545 "2022-07-27T20:03:21Z")

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The MiD is sounding smarter. The others are not commenting on it.

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2022, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1546 "2022-07-27T21:40:20Z")

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O-Chul described Monster-San as “a good man”. I find it implausible that he would have never used his at-will Detect Evil ability in Monster-San’s presence (especially early on, when he had no clue what was going on and couldn’t do anything else), so I think it’s pretty definitive that Monster-San is not evil, not a fiend, and not undead.

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**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1547 "2022-08-11T14:27:23Z")

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1264 - [Also an Uncanny Resemblance](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1264.html)

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**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1548 "2022-08-11T14:45:59Z")

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I’m guessing the summoned creature is a [Quinton](https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Quinton) from the plane of Mechanus.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1549 "2022-08-11T14:46:35Z")

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Hmm, i wonder where this is heading

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1550 "2022-08-11T15:01:44Z")

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[Quarton](https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Quarton), actually. No diamond on its forehead and no prehensile tale.

And it’ll always be Nirvana to me.

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**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1551 "2022-08-11T15:16:10Z")

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Quartons have four arms. This creature has five, and one of them could be a tail. At least it doesn’t seem to be attached to the shoulder.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1552 "2022-08-11T15:16:46Z")

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Mike Wazowski!

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1553 "2022-08-11T15:20:32Z")

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Not to burst the bubble of any old guard loremasters but it looks like the Monodrones from more modern editions.

[![](https://mtgandmore.de/WebRoot/Ecab/Shops/835/5989/7D94/E593/B8E8/B79E/0A0C/05BC/EB12/010Monodrone.jpg) ](https://mtgandmore.de/WebRoot/Ecab/Shops/835/5989/7D94/E593/B8E8/B79E/0A0C/05BC/EB12/010Monodrone.jpg)

Modrons were definitely done dirty by 3e onwards, I get that they were very silly but that was part of the charm

Eta: ignore me, you guys are discussing the big dude.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1554 "2022-08-11T15:23:59Z")

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You are correct. I miscounted.

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**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1555 "2022-08-11T15:29:04Z")

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> [@blue\_infinity](#):
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> Quartons have four arms. This creature has five, and one of them could be a tail. At least it doesn’t seem to be attached to the shoulder.

Mind you, the Giant has drawn the odd extra arm on occasion, so it’s not entirely without precedent. [11 Alignment Differences - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0011.html)

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1556 "2022-08-11T15:39:19Z")

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To be fair, that was a very long time ago, and his art has gotten more detailed since, so a mistake like that would be harder to make.

Also this may be an intentional hint:

1. in her cryptogram stage Haley says she “isn’t exactly what you’d call…” before being interrupted. Maybe she meant “human” because in fact she is some kind of three armed humanoid.

2. this would also explain how she can shoot her bow so quickly.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1557 "2022-08-11T16:46:20Z")

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Based on a post over at the OotS forum, Modrons are apparently IP. So to avoid infringing on that, this creature is neither Quarton nor Quinton. It has five arms, not four arms and a prehensile tail. Also the hands are the usual OotS three finger jobs and not the five fingers that Quintons have. I would expect Quartons to have four finger hands, although the description doesn’t say.

Another difference: the Modrons have multiple jointed arms, and this guy has only one joint per arm. Although considering that other OotS characters don’t have _any_ joints in their arms, even having one may count as multiple by that standard.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1558 "2022-08-11T20:07:22Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> in her cryptogram stage Haley says she “isn’t exactly what you’d call…” before being interrupted. Maybe she meant “human” because in fact she is some kind of three armed humanoid.

I always thought she was going to say, “straight”. I can’t remember where, but I think it was explicitly stated somewhere, maybe in one of the books, that Haley is bi or pan.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1559 "2022-08-11T20:09:50Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> I always thought she was going to say, “straight”. I can’t remember where, but I think it was explicitly stated somewhere, maybe in one of the books, that Haley is bi or pan

Neither bi nor pan people have 3 arms, so that theory doesn’t work

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1560 "2022-08-11T20:19:26Z")

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😛 (and more for Discord)

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1561 "2022-08-11T20:28:21Z")

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> [@ekedolphin](#):
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> > [@Babale](#):
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> > in her cryptogram stage Haley says she “isn’t exactly what you’d call…” before being interrupted. Maybe she meant “human” because in fact she is some kind of three armed humanoid.
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> I always thought she was going to say, “straight”. I can’t remember where, but I think it was explicitly stated somewhere, maybe in one of the books, that Haley is bi or pan.

It’s been stated several times that Haley is bi.

One of the cryptograms in the same strip reads in translation “I kissed a girl once. OK, OK, more than once!”

So the incomplete secret is something different from being bi.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1562 "2022-08-11T20:46:24Z")

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Oh, right. Okay. Then yeah, 🤷‍♂️

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1563 "2022-08-11T21:42:27Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Neither bi nor pan people have 3 arms, so that theory doesn’t work

snort

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