# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 79
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1564 "2022-08-11T22:06:13Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > Neither bi nor pan people have 3 arms, so that theory doesn’t work _Some_ bi people have a third arm – it’s just a lot shorter than the other two. However, given what we’ve _seen_ in the strip, never mind cryptic messages, I’d say it isn’t much of a secret. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1565 "2022-08-11T23:25:09Z")
A good callback on the Gate joke. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 12, 2022, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1566 "2022-08-12T00:29:53Z")
And Redcloak has cast that spell before, just not that version of the spell. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1567 "2022-08-18T14:30:22Z")
**[1265 Non-Killer App - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1265.html)** ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1568 "2022-08-18T14:30:41Z")
Love the name of this one. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [August 18, 2022, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1569 "2022-08-18T14:45:17Z")
And Redcloak actually used the word “quinton”, so I guess IP infringement is not an issue after all. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1570 "2022-08-19T00:07:38Z")
The Quinton’s sponsor is Raid: Shadow Legends? ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1571 "2022-08-19T00:08:52Z")
Also, it’s interesting to see how the Cosmic Forces of the Universe have progressed throughout the strip’s run, from Thor’s answering machine all the way to this! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 19, 2022, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1572 "2022-08-19T21:24:09Z")
> [@blue\_infinity](#): > > And Redcloak actually used the word “quinton”, so I guess IP infringement is not an issue after all. But the comic is carefully avoiding saying “Mechanus”. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1573 "2022-08-29T14:35:33Z")
**[1266 Even Deal - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1266.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1574 "2022-08-29T16:02:13Z")
Xykon really outsmarted himself there ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1575 "2022-08-29T16:05:24Z")
I wonder if Xykon’s little outburst about only wanting to kill everybody is going to be another bit of what causes Redcloak to betray him? Because we all know that’s bound to happen. It’s been lampshaded enough over the years. ---
**Author:** ![Yllaria](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yllaria/32/3452_2.png) [@Yllaria](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yllaria)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1576 "2022-08-29T17:13:09Z")
If Xykon didn’t want to have to think about it, all he had to do was end every sentence with a four-letter swear. Easy-peasy. Now, I guess he could end sentences with ‘clown’, or an odd-lettered swear. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1577 "2022-08-29T17:23:35Z")
I can’t help but think that Burlew is trolling his readers here, who will now be obsessively letter-counting. Thank ~~Heavens~~ Mechanus it’s only final words from now on. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1578 "2022-08-29T18:25:48Z")
That is exactly what i was thinking as i read it. That, or Xykon will kill Redcloak. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1579 "2022-08-29T19:23:19Z")
But if he does, that closes off the Chekov’s Gun of the compulsion Xykon put on the MitD. So I think it will be Redcloak that does the betraying. What happens then is going to be…interesting. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1580 "2022-08-29T19:28:28Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > Chronos is thinking that Oona is being very insightful. Oona appears to essentially being using Redcloak to further her own goals the same way Redcloak is using Xykon to further his own goals. And Redcloak, with his typical narrow view, doesn’t consider this possibility. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1581 "2022-08-29T19:34:57Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > 1. in her cryptogram stage Haley says she “isn’t exactly what you’d call…” before being interrupted. Maybe she meant “human” because in fact she is some kind of three armed humanoid. Perhaps the next word was “good”. Haley used to be fairly neutral in her alignment. Being with Elan has moved her to the good side. > [@Babale](#): > > 1. this would also explain how she can shoot her bow so quickly. And it would explain how she’s been carrying her arrows for all these years. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2022, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1582 "2022-08-29T22:12:43Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > Oona appears to essentially being using Redcloak to further her own goals the same way Redcloak is using Xykon to further his own goals. And Redcloak, with his typical narrow view, doesn’t consider this possibility. I think that Redcloak is fully aware of it, and considers it acceptable, because his goals (at least, his First Village goals, because he doesn’t admit the Second Village to himself) and Oona’s are close enough to aligning. Redcloak (on at least some level) really does want what’s best for all goblinoids. Oona wants what’s best for her particular tribe of goblinoids, and doesn’t hold any particular ill will for the rest of the goblinoids, so what’s good for goblinoids in general is mostly good for Oona’s tribe, and vice-versa. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1583 "2022-08-30T00:44:45Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I think that Redcloak is fully aware of it, and considers it acceptable Redcloak thinks he is successfully misleading Xykon. If Redcloak sees that Oona’s relationship with him is the same as his relationship with Xykon, he should be worried by the parallel. He should see the possibility that Oona is misleading him the way that he is misleading Xykon or that Xykon has seen through his plot the way that he has seen through Oona’s plot. But I doubt it. Redcloak puts other people into mental boxes. He has decided that Xykon and Oona are under his control and he dismisses any other possibilities (just as he dismissed the possibility that the MITD is actively sabotaging the search rather than just screwing up.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=78) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=80)