# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 85
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [January 30, 2023, 10:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1684 "2023-01-30T22:09:56Z")
That strip literally ends with him saying “pawn these visits off on Julia”. Roy probably meant that as “Eugene visit Julia instead of me”, but it could also be interpreted as “Julia visit me instead of Dad”. Which could account for Eugene impersonating Julia. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1685 "2023-01-31T01:23:40Z")
I would guess that it’s more like Eugene visits Julia and makes her worry about Roy not winning against Xykon, so she’d end up having to fulfill the Oath. That inspired her to visit Roy to try to help. Except that I don’t think Eugene can visit Julia since she doesn’t have the family heirloom (Greenhilt sword). ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2023, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1686 "2023-01-31T01:35:07Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > The question then is: Why would Eugene be pretending to be Julia? Eugene might be trying to manipulate Roy. Eugene is intelligent and he realizes Roy has grown suspicious of what he says (justifiably although Eugene doesn’t acknowledge that). So he’s pretending to be someone else that Roy still trusts. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1687 "2023-02-21T15:06:11Z")
**[1275 Must Have Been Some Magic - Giant in the Playground Games (giantitp.com)](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1275.html)** ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1688 "2023-02-21T15:23:56Z")
Ok, so while nothing has happened yet, there are some indications that something might be happening soon. I guess that’s something. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1689 "2023-02-21T15:30:11Z")
“Intentions matter only in absence of results. And then only for blaming.” Sounds like a politician. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [February 21, 2023, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1690 "2023-02-21T15:30:32Z")
Loving the title. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2023, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1691 "2023-03-03T13:21:57Z")
**[1276 A Bit Too Revealing - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1276.html)** Well, that seems conclusive. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1692 "2023-03-04T01:08:28Z")
Hah! For once, I’m right! ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2023, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1693 "2023-03-04T05:11:33Z")
Curious that critters (or _a_ critter, anyway) can see the projection. But I guess they (intentionally) always came when Roy was alone so maybe it’s always been viewable by anyone. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1694 "2023-03-06T05:16:30Z")
Sending (which is what Eugene was faking) isn’t, it’s all in the receiver’s head, but whatever he is actually using clearly is. Not sure if it’s an innate spirit power (it’s not a normal “Ghost-the-undead” power) or a spell. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1695 "2023-03-06T09:38:12Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Curious that critters (or _a_ critter, anyway) can see the projection. But I guess they (intentionally) always came when Roy was alone so maybe it’s always been viewable by anyone. [Others have seen him before](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0290.html), remember. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1696 "2023-03-06T13:17:36Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > [Others have seen him before](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0290.html), remember That was different. The spirit of Eugene was physically on the Material Plane, having been summoned by Shojo’s priests. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1697 "2023-03-06T16:36:00Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > That was different. The spirit of Eugene was physically on the Material Plane How do we know he isn’t, now? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1698 "2023-03-06T22:12:56Z")
And when Roy was dead, he was also able to travel spiritually to the material plane (though he wasn’t able to make himself visible to normal people). ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2023, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1699 "2023-03-06T22:33:08Z")
We don’t, but we have no reason to think he is. I think the trope of an animal being able to see a ghost applies. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2023, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1700 "2023-03-07T05:23:18Z")
A big one, for me, is - why apply an illusion to a sending, rather than just send an illusion? The ending of the illusion is a pointer to actual presence, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1701 "2023-03-09T14:21:44Z")
[1277 - ETA](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1277.html) ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1702 "2023-03-09T14:26:07Z")
“Goat-smacking fleece folders”? ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2023, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1703 "2023-03-09T14:27:56Z")
Goat-smacking fleece folders I just wanted to say that. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=84) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=86)