# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 97
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2024, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1924 "2024-02-02T16:34:02Z")
I find myself sympathetic to the dragon. ---
**Author:** ![dtilque](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d6d6ee/32.png) [@dtilque](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dtilque)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1925 "2024-02-03T01:25:34Z")
So Calder has somehow removed his extra susceptibility to cold damage. How could this be done? Could a Dispel cancel that? ---
**Author:** ![Measure\_for\_Measure](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/measure_for_measure/32/557_2.png) [@Measure\_for\_Measure](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Measure_for_Measure)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1926 "2024-02-03T03:41:38Z")
Calder might have casted resist energy. [Resist Energy :: d20srd.org](https://www.d20srd.org/srd/spells/resistEnergy.htm) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1927 "2024-02-03T03:43:25Z")
“Quite some time ago” implies he didn’t just cast a spell, he has some (semi?) permanent effect going and has for “quite some time”. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1928 "2024-02-03T06:11:28Z")
Or he learned the Resist spell a long time ago… ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1929 "2024-02-03T13:42:25Z")
Could be the Mantle of the Icy Soul spell, which grants a creature the cold subtype, with no duration. Ordinarily, that’d also mean fire vulnerability, but a creature who somehow gained both the fire and cold subtypes (like, say, a red dragon with that spell on it) would presumably be immune to both. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2024, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1930 "2024-02-03T13:48:07Z")
Possibly, but I’m a little skeptical. First I’m finding different sources for Mantle of the Icy Soul spell, some of which list it as “instantaneous” and others of which list it as “one hour per level.” Second, the spell specifically mentions gaining fire vulnerability. When two effects are incompatible, the general rule is that the most recent one applies. I suppose you could rule that you gained +50% of the fire damage after immunity was applied, and +50% of zero is still zero. But that brings us to the bigger problem, that Burlew doesn’t tend to use super-obscure stuff like spells from the Spell Compendium. My guess? A greater ring of cold resistance. Second guess? It’s actually straight-up spell resistance, and the dragon is lying, just like Haley was lying in the last strip. ---
**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1931 "2024-02-19T15:07:14Z")
**[Alley Oop](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1298.html)** ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1932 "2024-02-19T15:22:47Z")
Chekhov’s revenge. I like how Rich lampshaded it. How is Sunny an “aberration” ? ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1933 "2024-02-19T15:40:38Z")
That…was very satisfying. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1934 "2024-02-19T15:45:01Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > How is Sunny an “aberration” ? It’s just a creature type. Weird unworldly things tend to get classified as Aberrations in the game. Mimi the Mimic is also an aberration. Bloodfeast’s enthusiastic squawk was great ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1935 "2024-02-19T15:45:22Z")
Does V’s fly spell start working again as s/he falls out of Sunny’s beam? ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1936 "2024-02-19T15:52:56Z")
~~It should. [It did last time.](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1247.html)~~ Edit: My mistake, V wasn’t actually hit by the Dispel in their first fight with Sunny. They were taken out by a poisoned crossbow bolt. And a Slow spell. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1937 "2024-02-19T15:55:15Z")
Edit: Nevermind, Jophiel already addressed this. Isn’t Sunny’s main beam anti-magic, not Dispel? Not a gamer, but this seems to matter sometimes. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1938 "2024-02-19T15:58:25Z")
It is. And it does. I’m not especially on my game this morning, it seems 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1939 "2024-02-19T16:04:31Z")
That big panel, though–that is worth all the buildup. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1940 "2024-02-19T16:11:43Z")
> [@Jophiel](#): > > Bloodfeast’s enthusiastic squawk was great And his determined look as Belkar threw him. He was still a dino on the inside and he wanted to get his teeth into that dragon. ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1941 "2024-02-19T16:22:01Z")
To all the naysayers who doubted Bloodfeast the Extremeinator just because of his “low challenge rating”, I say: RAWR! DINO VS DRAGON FIGHT! ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1942 "2024-02-19T16:28:23Z")
> [@Babale](#): > > To all the naysayers who doubted Bloodfeast the Extremeinator just because of his “low challenge rating”, I say: RAWR! DINO VS DRAGON FIGHT! ⁢ Still, that does make me worry we may lose our little big guy. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 19, 2024, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1943 "2024-02-19T16:36:38Z")
Mechanically, I’m unconvinced but story-wise and visually, I’m all for it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=96) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=98)