# Order of the Stick book 7 discussion thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** comic-strips\ **Created:** [February 3, 2020, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438 "2020-02-03T17:48:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 99
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1964 "2024-03-11T16:59:24Z")
> [@dtilque](#): > > so the chomp on Calder’s neck will probably be coming to an end. I’m guessing it technically has since Calder was able to finally speak. > [@squeegee](#): > > I’m surprised Haley is having issues flying Minrah. She’s flown Elan about without much effort. I guess Minrah’s armor is heavy? Yep. Minrah and Elan probably weigh about the same body weight (she might even weigh a little bit more) but she’s in plate armor instead of a jaunty cloth vest. Minrah doesn’t need to keep touching Sunny, I think we’re just supposed to take multiple things from the panels: that Minrah got up there, cast _Protection from Evil_ and Sunny no longer has swirly eyes and is acting independently again. ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2024, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1965 "2024-03-11T17:50:40Z")
Ah I didn’t notice the lack of swirl in Sunny’s eyes. I figured he was still charmed but he’d learned from Haley in the previous encounter to keep misunderstandings just this side of utter implausibility. ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1966 "2024-03-21T14:20:07Z")
1300 - [Short‐Term Goal](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1300.html) ---
**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1967 "2024-03-21T14:30:12Z")
1. the Paladins can now heal Sunny who can use Telekinesis to get them upstairs? Or can he carry them and fly? 2. the dino-vs-dragon fight was glorious while it lasted. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1968 "2024-03-21T14:55:19Z")
Yep on #1. About time they got back into the battle. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1969 "2024-03-21T15:06:31Z")
This of course is where D&D meets real-life dinosaur-style combat (or what might resemble such, if it we were witness to such a battle on this planet 67 million years ago). By now an allosaurus would have easily torn the head off of his opponent/prey (say it was a juvenile Diplodicus or such). But here all we have, at best, is the dragon’s hit point total slowly dropping: 200…180…160…and all the while he is still somehow able to talk and even have the presence of mind to kick his other annoyance completely out of the room.[/end polemic on nonsensical but necessary role-playing rules] ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2024, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1970 "2024-03-21T15:47:43Z")
Belkar has a history of his animal friends impotently nibbling on powerful enemies, doesn’t he? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1971 "2024-03-26T07:26:11Z")
How Long does it take to cast a remove curse spell on Bloodfeast? Assuming either of their casters had that spell prepared? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1972 "2024-03-26T21:21:58Z")
You’d use Dispel Magic, not Remove Curse. And it’d only take a single action, same as most other spells. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1973 "2024-03-26T21:30:18Z")
It’s my understanding that Dispel Magic would only restore Bloodfeast for as long as the spell remains in effect, and the permanence of V’s restoration from lizard Status (during the starmetal side quest) was due to Durkon having cast Remove Curse. Gods, I hope I don’t have to read that section AGAIN. Anyway, whichever spell it is, they should use that. Also, when you say “single action” is that equivalent to one round (which I understand is six seconds long)? And does this imply that “Resurrection,” a spell with a ten-minute (100-round) casting time is NOT a single action? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2024, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1974 "2024-03-26T21:40:46Z")
Dispel Magic doesn’t have a duration. It ends the duration of other spells. Remove Curse works in basically the same way as Dispel Magic, but on different things. It doesn’t work on things that aren’t curses, but many curses have special rules that Dispel Magic doesn’t work on them. Antimagic Field works similarly to Sunny’s eye, and only suppresses spells that are in it (though if they have a finite duration, it still runs down in the field). ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1975 "2024-04-10T14:21:05Z")
1301 - [Bite Size](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots1301.html) ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1976 "2024-04-10T14:23:34Z")
So now Bloodfeast is permanently large. I wonder how well he’s going to fit through all the tunnels here. ---
**Author:** ![Hypno-Toad](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b2d939/32.png) [@Hypno-Toad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hypno-Toad)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1977 "2024-04-10T14:27:30Z")
Gyyaa? ---
**Author:** ![blue\_infinity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blue_infinity/32/2817_2.png) [@blue\_infinity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/blue_infinity)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1978 "2024-04-10T14:29:57Z")
They managed to get Calder down there. Must be some way to get back out. ---
**Author:** ![squeegee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/squeegee/32/14537_2.png) [@squeegee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/squeegee)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1979 "2024-04-10T14:31:15Z")
He’s definitely not going on the airship. Or I guess V can polymorph him again if it’s an issue. I’m surprised Bloodfeast could survive even one chew from Calder. Does he have the hit points of the his large self while bite sized? ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1980 "2024-04-10T14:44:39Z")
Maybe Bloodfeast makes it clear he liked being a lizard and V does another Baleful Polymorph spell ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1981 "2024-04-10T19:47:51Z")
> [@squeegee](#): > > Does he have the hit points of the his large self while bite sized? Yes. And is still treated as having his full hit dice for purposes of spells where that matters. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1982 "2024-04-10T20:49:29Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > By the rules, both V’s flight and Bloodfeast’s polymorph should turn back on once they’re out of the antimagic. > > But Rich might well decide to Rule of Cool it. And here we see that Burlew did both: He followed the exact rules, and by doing so, managed to make it maximally cool. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2024, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438/1983 "2024-04-10T21:18:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > > [@Chronos](#): > > > > By the rules, both V’s flight and Bloodfeast’s polymorph should turn back on once they’re out of the antimagic. > > > > But Rich might well decide to Rule of Cool it. ⁢ > > And here we see that Burlew did both: He followed the exact rules, and by doing so, managed to make it maximally cool. ⁢ Yeah. It gave us what many had hoped for: Bloodfeast transforming after being eaten. Though, admittedly, not yet swallowed. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=98) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-book-7-discussion-thread/847438.md?page=100)