# Order of the Stick General Discussion Thread (Open Spoilers and Speculation) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 2, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096 "2009-02-02T07:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 2:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/261 "2009-03-14T02:03:05Z")
It also confirms something that readers have suspected, but was never actually out and out stated before: that Sabine is, specifically, a succubus. Oh, and note that there was so much reaction and readership that the forums were shut down! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/262 "2009-03-14T02:45:38Z")
> [@](#): > > Heh. > > “She-” > “He ?” > “It ?” > > Not even the Forces of Evil can tell. Even Sabine, who’s probably the foremost expert on the subject of sex in this strip, [can’t](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0252.html) [decide](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0385.html). > [@](#): > > It also confirms something that readers have suspected, but was never actually out and out stated before: that Sabine is, specifically, a succubus. While also confirming that contrary to normal succubi, she’s Lawful Evil. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/263 "2009-03-14T02:59:01Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > It also confirms something that readers have suspected, but was never actually out and out stated before: that Sabine is, specifically, a succubus. I’m pretty sure she’s been referred to as a “succubus” elsewhere and then had devil or demon mystery continue. They could be using “succubus” as just an evil temptress. Just as Vaarsuvius was referred to as “Mister” a few strips ago and now they’re being ambiguous with V’s gender again. ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/264 "2009-03-14T04:54:01Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m pretty sure she’s been referred to as a “succubus” elsewhere and then had devil or demon mystery continue. Nope… The closest the strip itself has ever come to saying her type is that she’s an “evil incarnation of illicit sex”, but the problem is that D&D actually has multiple different evil incarnations of illicit sex (the diabolical version being the erinyes). And an author’s commentary in one of the published books refers to her as a “succubus-type”, but again, that still leaves the possibility of erinyes open. This, though, is pretty clear: Someone who would certainly know has now called her “a succubus”, without qualification. ---
**Author:** ![One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/838e76/32.png) [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/One_And_Only_Wanderers)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 10:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/265 "2009-03-14T10:12:44Z")
ok just read all 630 some strips. I love3 this comic! How frequently fo new strips appear? ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 10:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/266 "2009-03-14T10:32:21Z")
> [@One\_And\_Only\_Wanderers](#): > > ok just read all 630 some strips. I love3 this comic! How frequently fo new strips appear? Depends on how the author is feeling, among other things - he has some sort of health problem that will occasionally (IIRC) leave him bedridden or close to it. I think his aim is three times per week; the last comic came out only two days after the previous (3/11), but the one before that was a week prior (3/3). I’d say it’s worth the occasional uncertainty. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/267 "2009-03-14T11:58:20Z")
Is it possible V is taunting the Dragon to distract it from trying to finish off the spouse and kids rather than attacking V? ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/268 "2009-03-14T15:30:27Z")
> [@](#): > > ok just read all 630 some strips. I love3 this comic! How frequently fo new strips appear? Burlew has also written several books. Three of them, _Dungeon Crawlin’ Fools_, _No Cure for the Paladin Blues_, and _War And XPs_ are reprints of the webcomic series with some bonus strips. Two others, _On the Origin of PCs_ and _Start of Darkness_, are prequels with all new material. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2009, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/269 "2009-03-14T15:49:58Z")
> [@Ferret\_Herder](#): > > Depends on how the author is feeling, among other things - he has some sort of health problem that will occasionally (IIRC) leave him bedridden or close to it. I think his aim is three times per week; the last comic came out only two days after the previous (3/11), but the one before that was a week prior (3/3). I’d say it’s worth the occasional uncertainty. He hasn’t kept to 3 per week for some time. The last 100 strips have taken almost exactly a year. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/270 "2009-03-17T23:15:38Z")
Did anyone else hear Burlew cackling when he came up with that title? ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/271 "2009-03-17T23:26:20Z")
Aw, poor Mama Dragon. ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2009, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/272 "2009-03-17T23:45:38Z")
I liked Elf-Parent’s response to the question: “I’m… not sure.” So very appropriate. ---
**Author:** ![Landshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Landshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Landshark)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/273 "2009-03-18T00:47:22Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > He hasn’t kept to 3 per week for some time. The last 100 strips have taken almost exactly a year. I’ve always assumed his health situation is related to the notice on the site “updates up to three days per week **without warning**.” ---
**Author:** ![Landshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/77aa72/32.png) [@Landshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Landshark)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/274 "2009-03-18T00:49:23Z")
> [@Leaper](#): > > Did anyone else hear Burlew cackling when he came up with that title? Regarding the title, my reaction was “Damn you, Burlew!” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/275 "2009-03-18T00:52:00Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > Aw, poor Mama Dragon. I think we can chalk up swallowing whole an overpowered wizard who just cast Protection from Acid as blind panic on the dragon’s part because it definitely wasn’t smart. Of course the fight was the prelude. The really interesting stuff is about to hit… ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/276 "2009-03-18T00:53:31Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > I think we can chalk up swallowing whole an overpowered wizard who just cast Protection from Acid as blind panic on the dragon’s part because it definitely wasn’t smart. The dragon had no idea. She was Time Stopped when he cast Acid Immunity. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/277 "2009-03-18T01:32:13Z")
Okay, I’m stumped. What the heck kind of dragon _is_ that? ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/278 "2009-03-18T01:35:44Z")
A pink one. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/279 "2009-03-18T01:40:08Z")
So… I expect a pink dragon would have some kind of a “fart rainbows” breath weapon, then? There has to be _some_ reason V chose to go pink. ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/280 "2009-03-18T01:41:43Z")
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