# Order of the Stick General Discussion Thread (Open Spoilers and Speculation) **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [February 2, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096 "2009-02-02T07:39:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 15
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/281 "2009-03-18T01:42:26Z")
Sounds dirty. Breath weapon: hot lovin. ---
**Author:** ![Lightray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightray/32/391_2.png) [@Lightray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightray)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/282 "2009-03-18T01:50:45Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > What does a pink dragon signify, in D&D terms? Damned if I know. Although… was the What’s New (with Phil & Dixie) “growf” dragon pink? [hmmm…](http://www.studiofoglio.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/pin.dragon1.jpg) ---
**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/283 "2009-03-18T01:57:46Z")
WAG: Black dragons are Chaotic Evil, and so are White and Red. Maybe the “pink” is a combination of those two dragon types? I have no idea why he’d go with that, just my best guess. ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/284 "2009-03-18T01:59:23Z")
**DRAGON, PINK** FREQUENCY: _Unique_ NO. APPEARING: _1_ ARMOR CLASS: _-1_ MOVE: _12"/30"_ HIT DICE: _12 - 14_ % IN LAIR: _0%_ TREASURE TYPE: _V_ NO. OF ATTACKS: _6_ DAMAGE/ATTACK: _1-8/1-8/3-30/8-48/8-48/5-20_ SPECIAL ATTACKS: _Chest bursting + Ultimate Arcane Power_ SPECIAL DEFENSES: _Nil_ MAGIC RESISTANCE: _Standard_ INTELLIGENCE: _Supra Genius_ ALIGNMENT: _Neutral Evil_ SIZE: _L (60’ Long)_ PSIONIC ABILITY: _Nil_ _Attack/Defense Modes: Nil_ CHANCE OF: Speaking: 100% Magic Use: 100% Sleeping: 0% ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/285 "2009-03-18T02:05:55Z")
> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#): > > **DRAGON, PINK** > FREQUENCY: _Unique_ > NO. APPEARING: _1_ > ARMOR CLASS: _-1_ > MOVE: _12"/30"_ > HIT DICE: _12 - 14_ > % IN LAIR: _0%_ > TREASURE TYPE: _V_ > NO. OF ATTACKS: _6_ > DAMAGE/ATTACK: _1-8/1-8/3-30/8-48/8-48/5-20_ > SPECIAL ATTACKS: _Chest bursting + Ultimate Arcane Power_ > SPECIAL DEFENSES: _Nil_ > MAGIC RESISTANCE: _Standard_ > INTELLIGENCE: _Supra Genius_ > ALIGNMENT: _Neutral Evil_ > SIZE: _L (60’ Long)_ > PSIONIC ABILITY: _Nil_ > _Attack/Defense Modes: Nil_ > CHANCE OF: > Speaking: 100% > Magic Use: 100% > Sleeping: 0% Dude, that is SO 1st Ed. ---
**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/286 "2009-03-18T02:10:23Z")
I know this is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy out there, but Neal Stephenson in his latest book discusses a pink dragon that farts nerve gas. I just like to think that all the writers I like all read and enjoy each other also. So, in my head, Neal Stephenson, Neil Gaiman, Terry Pratchett, Burlew, Shakespeare, and Joss Whedon all hang out together and refer to each others work all the time. As I said, I like to think… ---
**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/287 "2009-03-18T02:13:10Z")
The dragon is the same color as the magical aura surrounding all the spells that V has cast while spliced. So its color is most likely an artifact of that magic rather than indicative of the type of dragon it is. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/288 "2009-03-18T02:20:01Z")
Who knew pink could be so ominous? Oh, and dragons that fart nerve gas? They wouldn’t happen to be related to those Exalted dinosaurs that piss heroin, would they? ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 7:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/289 "2009-03-18T07:49:04Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > Who knew pink could be so ominous? Any Warhammer/40K player who’s ever faced a Chaos horde of Slaanesh? ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 9:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/290 "2009-03-18T09:40:41Z")
There is one other thing that Arcane magic doesn’t do well. Heal the wounded. It _is_ possible, given some exceedingly obscure spells, but only in the 10-20 HP range, generally. ---
**Author:** ![Grumman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/43a26b/32.png) [@Grumman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grumman)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 10:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/291 "2009-03-18T10:11:29Z")
> [@E-Sabbath](#): > > There is one other thing that Arcane magic doesn’t do well. Heal the wounded. It _is_ possible, given some exceedingly obscure spells, but only in the 10-20 HP range, generally. There’s always polymorph: > [@SRD](#): > > Upon changing, the subject regains lost hit points as if it had rested for a night (though this healing does not restore temporary ability damage and provide other benefits of resting; and changing back does not heal the subject further). That’s one hit point per hit die, not great, but it’s a core arcane spell. ---
**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/292 "2009-03-18T11:24:53Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Dude, that is SO 1st Ed. Yet still completely awesome, baby. AWESOME! ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/293 "2009-03-18T11:49:53Z")
> [@Grumman](#): > > There’s always polymorph: > > > [@SRD](#): > > > > Upon changing, the subject regains lost hit points as if it had rested for a night (though this healing does not restore temporary ability damage and provide other benefits of resting; and changing back does not heal the subject further). > > That’s one hit point per hit die, not great, but it’s a core arcane spell. Wouldn’t it be terribly ironic if V polymorphed her family into dragons, only to have them slain by a random adventuring party? I realize it’s not very likely what with V’s Ultimate Arcane Power and all, but still… ---
**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/294 "2009-03-18T12:08:07Z")
Or the rest of V’s village suddenly shows up and attacks the mysterious pink dragon that has appeared in their midst. Or the pink dragon has a bran muffin shaped hole in its scales… ---
**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/295 "2009-03-18T12:22:59Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Dude, that is SO 1st Ed. Ed.? What is this “1st Ed.” you speak of? That’s AD&D, right there. Perhaps you’re thinking of GURPS or the Hero System; they’ve had a few editions. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/296 "2009-03-18T15:15:36Z")
> [@tanstaafl](#): > > Or the pink dragon has a bran muffin shaped hole in its scales… Guh? ---
**Author:** ![Peter\_Morris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/peter_morris/32/359_2.png) [@Peter\_Morris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peter_Morris)\ **Post date:** [March 18, 2009, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/297 "2009-03-18T15:23:04Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > Guh? From a few strips ago : “My mate is an apprentice baker you moron … I know, you could relay knowledge of the secret gap in the dragon’s underbelly scales that is the exact size and shape of a banana nut muffin.” > **[630 Shoot the Messenger - Giant in the Playground Games](https://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0630.html)** ---
**Author:** ![JR\_Brown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/d6d6ee/32.png) [@JR\_Brown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JR_Brown)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/298 "2009-03-19T13:26:11Z")
> [@ultrafilter](#): > > The dragon is the same color as the magical aura surrounding all the spells that V has cast while spliced. So its color is most likely an artifact of that magic rather than indicative of the type of dragon it is. Hasn’t V’s magic _always_ been pink? Starting from [panel 1 of strip 1](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html)? ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/299 "2009-03-19T13:30:57Z")
> [@Peter\_Morris](#): > > From a few strips ago : > > “My mate is an apprentice baker you moron … I know, you could relay knowledge of the secret gap in the dragon’s underbelly scales that is the exact size and shape of a banana nut muffin.” > > [630 Shoot the Messenger - Giant in the Playground Games](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0630.html) I knew that sounded somewhat familiar. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [March 19, 2009, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/300 "2009-03-19T20:48:18Z")
> [@JR\_Brown](#): > > Hasn’t V’s magic _always_ been pink? Starting from [panel 1 of strip 1](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0001.html)? I’m not positive that it’s _V’s_ magic that pink so much as a most magic in the series is pink. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096.md?page=14) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096.md?page=16)