# Order of the Stick General Discussion Thread (Open Spoilers and Speculation)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 2, 2009, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096 "2009-02-02T07:39:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/481 "2009-03-27T02:13:29Z")

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Don’t forget that [strip 13](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html) says that the Dungeon of Dorukan was created by Xykon, which contradicts the quest backstory later on (and doesn’t really make all that much sense to begin with).

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/482 "2009-03-27T02:26:12Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Don’t forget that [strip 13](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0013.html) says that the Dungeon of Dorukan was created by Xykon, which contradicts the quest backstory later on (and doesn’t really make all that much sense to begin with).

Well, specifically, it’s _Elan_ who says Xykon created the dungeon. So, you know… grain of salt, and all.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/483 "2009-03-27T04:51:27Z")

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> [@Strinka](#):
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> I dunno, Durkon is the only one who looks sickened, and your cite says that Unholy Blight does half damage to neutral creatures. That could still be enough to temporarily incapacitate V.

Well, regardless of V’s alignment before, I’d say it’s taken a definite giant step to the dark side. Even the kids are afraid of him now – and I don’t blame them.

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**Author:** ![JoseB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/joseb/32/1530_2.png) [@JoseB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoseB)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/484 "2009-03-27T10:25:56Z")

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What really impresses me is the “WTF?!” expression in the eyes of the four fiends in panel #7 when they see what Vaarsuvius is doing.

Not that it makes them unhappy, of course. But the actions of Vaarsuvius manage to surprise even them… I think that says something!

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/485 "2009-03-27T15:40:54Z")

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Please explain to me how I managed not to notice that Vaarsuvius’s speech bubbles have had a black background since immediately after the soul splice. :smack:

This whole story arc has added a new activity to my day: feverishly check [www.giantitp.com](http://www.giantitp.com) each time I log on and log off my computer. Can’t wait to see where it goes from here!

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/486 "2009-03-27T16:32:33Z")

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> [@shantih](#):
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> This whole story arc has added a new activity to my day: feverishly check [www.giantitp.com](http://www.giantitp.com) each time I log on and log off my computer. Can’t wait to see where it goes from here!

He’s only updating the strip once or twice per week so you’re being a little enthusiastic. 🙂

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/487 "2009-03-27T18:15:36Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> He’s only updating the strip once or twice per week so you’re being a little enthusiastic. 🙂

I know, but as the days go by, my odds get better and better! Also, the time between new strips is random, so after two days, I start to get antsy. Antsier.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 6:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/488 "2009-03-27T18:22:07Z")

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Be cool and use the [RSS feed](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.rss).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/489 "2009-03-27T18:46:45Z")

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> [@](#):
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> He’s only updating the strip once or twice per week

Or so. On average. There have been times when one update has come less than 24 hours after the previous one.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2009, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/490 "2009-03-27T19:00:25Z")

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I love how by the end of the strip the evil voices pretty much gave up their attempts at “justifying” V’s actions. “You stared it anyway. Well kind of. This part at least.” I think V just shocked his eviler-than-evil soul splice buddies too.

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 4:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/491 "2009-03-29T16:07:53Z")

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[The aftermath](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0641.html). Not exactly what V wanted.

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/492 "2009-03-29T16:09:50Z")

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_Look at the fear in their eyes_

_Have they ever looked at you that way?_

_Will they ever look at you any other way now?_

Indeed.

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**Author:** ![shantih](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f6c823/32.png) [@shantih](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shantih)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/493 "2009-03-29T18:09:53Z")

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> [@ultrafilter](#):
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> Be cool and use the [RSS feed](http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots.rss).

I am cool! And I do use the RSS feed! It’s just that, um, I couldn’t remember the term ‘RSS feed’, so I went with the website to get my meaning across, so I guess not so cool after all. Never mind.

Hey, new strip! Gotta wonder if reality will smack V in the face a bit more clearly now that s/he has one fewer evil voice in the brain.

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/494 "2009-03-29T21:28:26Z")

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A-a-a-nd the fallout begins. I thought the kids’ legs were broken.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/495 "2009-03-29T23:05:26Z")

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Dammit, the OOTS server needs some help.

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**Author:** ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/496 "2009-03-29T23:15:25Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> A-a-a-nd the fallout begins. I thought the kids’ legs were broken.

Looks kind of like he’s trying to portray them sitting up, not standing.

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**Author:** ![tanstaafl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ba8739/32.png) [@tanstaafl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tanstaafl)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/497 "2009-03-30T00:22:41Z")

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> [@Ogre](#):
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> Dammit, the OOTS server needs some help.

Yeah, I keep getting page load errors. I think he’s crashing his server every time he posts a new strip now.

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**Author:** ![Just\_Some\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ad7895/32.png) [@Just\_Some\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Just_Some_Guy)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/498 "2009-03-30T00:42:35Z")

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> [@tanstaafl](#):
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> Yeah, I keep getting page load errors. I think he’s crashing his server every time he posts a new strip now.

It’s not crashing; it’s a bandwidth problem. He’s “slashdotting” his own server. 🙂

A real problem is that he’s serving up each comic as a fairly large gif image. His full page format means each comic view is a large chunk of data to be served up. And it doesn’t help that each new comic involved call backs to earlier ones which send people scrambling back to digging into the archive.

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/499 "2009-03-30T20:26:19Z")

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> [@Just\_Some\_Guy](#):
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> It’s not crashing; it’s a bandwidth problem. He’s “slashdotting” his own server. 🙂
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> A real problem is that he’s serving up each comic as a fairly large gif image. His full page format means each comic view is a large chunk of data to be served up. And it doesn’t help that each new comic involved call backs to earlier ones which send people scrambling back to digging into the archive.

Well, you can’t blame him for the .gif images, it’s either that or png and png is even worse. Text looks terrible on compressed images (especially jpegs) and hurts my eyes (and many other’s). The general rule I learned is “jpeg or other compressed format for straight art, png or gif for ANYTHING involving text” and he seems to be holding to that rule, if the server suffers a little so be it.

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [March 30, 2009, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-of-the-stick-general-discussion-thread-open-spoilers-and-speculation/484096/500 "2009-03-30T20:59:19Z")

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Ahhh…now _that_ was a day well-spent, rereading the entire archive. Things make so much more sense without the delays inbetween. None of that “wait…who the hell is this O-Chul guy again?” stuff.

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