# Order to Show Cause Notice for Failure to Attend Jury Service **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [June 18, 2013, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257 "2013-06-18T07:21:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Gleena](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/b3f665/32.png) [@Gleena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gleena)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/41 "2013-06-19T06:20:48Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > To whom are you asking what? The OP. Settle down, Francis. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/42 "2013-06-19T06:24:20Z")
> [@Gleena](#): > > The OP. > > Settle down, Francis. Sure sweetie. I figured since your post followed mine and was asking an apparently vague question, I had to at least ascertain if I needed to respond. I’m sure you understand. ---
**Author:** ![Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c77e96/32.png) [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Speaker_for_the_Dead)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/43 "2013-06-19T15:10:54Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > Sure sweetie. I figured since your post followed mine and was asking an apparently vague question, I had to at least ascertain if I needed to respond. I’m sure you understand. Why are you so upset over this? I’ve seen people on this board put less energy into people suggesting a hot car is a good place to store an infant.\* \*This was hyperbole. Please do not take it as actual fact, if you happen to be irony impaired or if you are someone who takes angst over minor details way too far. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/44 "2013-06-19T15:26:54Z")
> [@Speaker\_for\_the\_Dead](#): > > Why are you so upset over this? I’ve seen people on this board put less energy into people suggesting a hot car is a good place to store an infant.\* > > \*This was hyperbole. Please do not take it as actual fact, if you happen to be irony impaired or if you are someone who takes angst over minor details way too far. I’m screwed no matter how I respond. But I guess that’s the point right? 😛 ---
**Author:** ![AngelSoft](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/angelsoft/32/440_2.png) [@AngelSoft](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AngelSoft)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/45 "2013-06-19T15:33:11Z")
Isn’t the next step (should he ignore this one) to issue a warrant for his arrest? I’ve always been under the impression that’s what happens if you ignore jury summons. And really, one day of jury duty? Please. Here in Oregon you’re on jury duty all month. ---
**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/46 "2013-06-19T15:35:14Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > I’m not familiar with CA law but since neither is **AK84** , I’d willing to bet that falls under the rubric of ‘overkill.’ True, I am not admitted in California nor particularly familiar with California law, excepting one or two provisions I have come across during my practice. I am however familiar with the English language and what appears to be a dying art of actually reading the letter in hand. Now unless the great state of California has different meanings for the words “$ 1500 fine” and “upto 5 days in jail”, I stand by what I said. I am willing to cut you a little slack seeing as you are ([per you claim) retired and skills do atrophy without practice, one of which evidently is the skill of reading a thing through before making a call. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/47 "2013-06-19T15:42:58Z")
> [@AK84](#): > > True, I am not admitted in California nor particularly familiar with California law, excepting one or two provisions I have come across during my practice. > > I am however familiar with the English language and what appears to be a dying art of actually reading the letter in hand. Now unless the great state of California has different meanings for the words “$ 1500 fine” and “upto 5 days in jail”, I stand by what I said. > > I am willing to cut you a little slack seeing as you are ([per you claim) retired and skills do atrophy without practice, one of which evidently is the skill of reading a thing through before making a call. The snark is strong with this one. Did you also notice that it cites as authority the CA code of civil procedure and not a statutory reference? What does that tell you? Would you like a hint? ---
**Author:** ![KSO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f07891/32.png) [@KSO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KSO)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/48 "2013-06-19T19:01:56Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > The snark is strong with this one. Did you also notice that it cites as authority the CA code of civil procedure and not a statutory reference? What does that tell you? Would you like a hint? Seriously, dude. Switch to decaf. ---
**Author:** ![Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spectre_of_pithecanthropus/32/12343_2.png) [@Spectre\_of\_Pithecanthropus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spectre_of_Pithecanthropus)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/49 "2013-06-19T22:19:03Z")
> [@deltasigma](#): > > The snark is strong with this one. Did you also notice that it cites as authority the CA code of civil procedure and not a statutory reference? What does that tell you? Would you like a hint? I know this wasn’t directed at me, but yes I would like a hint, naturally curious as I am–i.e. why is that significant? Isn’t the CA CCP still statutory, as implied by the title “code”? If it’s a law it can be broken, and prosecuted for, right? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/50 "2013-06-19T22:26:49Z")
Violations of codes of procedure, even if enacted by legislatures, are not necessarily actionable. For example, Florida’s evidence code is a statutory instrument rather than being prescribed by the FL Supreme Court (like the federal rules of evidence), but you are not committing a crime if you break it. ---
**Author:** ![deltasigma](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e5b9ba/32.png) [@deltasigma](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/deltasigma)\ **Post date:** [June 19, 2013, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/51 "2013-06-19T22:31:52Z")
Usually references to civil procedure are tantamount to a juridiction’s court rules. However I decided to check this to be sure and while this is in fact true, as it turns out, [CA is somewhat unusual in this regard](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Code_of_Civil_Procedure), even compared to the federal courts. > [@](#): > > Like the 28 other California Codes, the CCP is frequently amended by the Legislature. Unlike most other states, California never followed the federal trend towards transferring authority over procedural law to the courts through statutes like the federal Rules Enabling Act. Instead, the California Rules of Court (CRC) cover only relatively minor matters such as the formatting of court papers and case management rules implementing the Trial Court Delay Reduction Act of 1986. My being that the penalty was most likely in the nature of a contempt sanction rather than a criminal sanction as AK84 had intimated. However as it turns out, the CA CCP is something of a hybrid. Even so, I would argue the point still stands. I could go on but I think the horse is twice dead at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [June 20, 2013, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257/52 "2013-06-20T12:28:24Z")
nm. Question already answered. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/order-to-show-cause-notice-for-failure-to-attend-jury-service/661257.md?page=2)