# Ore Crash Kills 8 - Yet A Victim Still Remains At The Scene 11 Hours Later! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2003, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464 "2003-08-25T05:08:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/1 "2003-08-25T05:08:52Z")
You may have scene the news reports: **Fiery Van Crash Kills 8 Ore. Firefighters** "VALE, Ore. - A van full of firefighters on their way home from a wildfire collided with a tractor-trailer and exploded in flames Sunday, killing all eight inside and injuring the two people in the truck. "The occupants of the Swift Co. tractor-trailer were able to free themselves and were taken to an Ontario hospital with dislocations and burns, Wolfe said. Their names and conditions were not available Sunday night. " Source: [http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20030825/ap\_on\_re\_us/van\_crash](http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=716&e=6&u=/ap/20030825/ap_on_re_us/van_crash) Yet a _live television news broadcast_ now 11 hours later reveals the couple in the semi-truck had their dog with them, _and it’s on the side of the road, alive, unattended and alone!_ WTF!!! I know, I know. Eight fire fighters died. Two others in the semi injured. But what about the dog? It is a pet of those injured. How will they feel when they know their dog was left alone by everyone? For many people, a pet is part of the family just like a human child. You mean to tell me the television reporters reporting live from the scene 11 hours later – and telling the story of this dog – cannot help the dog? (And before you think I’m being callous, I do fight forest fires during the season. I have friends who died on fires. Our team is awaiting another callout.) ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/2 "2003-08-25T05:56:22Z")
Fuck the dog. ---
**Author:** ![whatami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/85f322/32.png) [@whatami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whatami)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/3 "2003-08-25T06:27:59Z")
Initial reports say the kid that was driving tried to pass a semi on a two lane highway (which was curvy) and ran head-on into the other semi. That sucks. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/4 "2003-08-25T06:29:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by friedo \* > Fuck the dog. > [@](#): > > [Oregon Revised Statutes: Chapter 167 — Offenses Against Public Health, Decency and Animals](http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/167.html): > > **167.333 Sexual assault of animal.** (1) A person commits the crime of sexual assault of an animal if the person touches or contacts, or causes an object or another person to touch or contact, the mouth, anus or sex organs of an animal for the purpose of arousing or gratifying the sexual desire of a person. > > (2) Sexual assault of an animal is a Class A misdemeanor. ---
**Author:** ![friedo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8edcca/32.png) [@friedo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/friedo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/5 "2003-08-25T08:26:39Z")
Damn. ---
**Author:** ![CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crankyasanoldman/32/11670_2.png) [@CrankyAsAnOldMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrankyAsAnOldMan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/6 "2003-08-25T13:07:43Z")
I suspect that rescue workers have a policy to not help or treat animals. They don’t know the animal, and it could be pretty freaked out. They do not need a dog bite to treat on top of the injuries sustained by the victims. And how would they transport it? You can’t have an animal in the ambulance–little enough room as it is. What they DO need to do in such a situation, however, is get on the horn and make sure the sheriff contacts the animal welfare organization in the area. There’s no reason why that dog needed to be left there so long. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/7 "2003-08-25T20:50:53Z")
Maybe the dog’s job was to keep an eye on the rig? * * * How is Rap like Porn? Both are better with the sound turned off. ---
**Author:** ![capacitor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e47774/32.png) [@capacitor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/capacitor)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/8 "2003-08-25T22:57:48Z")
It could be the case that they didn’t know, or he was left for dead. There are several stories of humans left alive in a catastrophe, the rescuers not knowing. ---
**Author:** ![Cowgirl\_Jules](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4af34b/32.png) [@Cowgirl\_Jules](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cowgirl_Jules)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2003, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ore-crash-kills-8-yet-a-victim-still-remains-at-the-scene-11-hours-later/197464/9 "2003-08-25T23:20:39Z")
I’d like to think that **Cranky** is right. When I was working as an animal control officer, I was called out to several accidents to retrieve pets. The human rescue workers have their priorities right in taking care of the people. Hopefully someone thought to call animal control or the humane society, but I can see it getting overlooked in a tragedy like that.