# Ored and zas legal in scrabble? **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [April 21, 2013, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288 "2013-04-21T04:40:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![drewtwo99](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/d07c76/32.png) [@drewtwo99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drewtwo99)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/21 "2013-04-24T06:49:18Z")
I just wanted to chime in that za is a stupid word BUT it does stand for the “idea” of pizza and not a particular pizza. So pluralizing it makes no sense. So such thing as zas! ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [April 24, 2013, 4:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/22 "2013-04-24T16:52:21Z")
ZEBU and ZAS are both words in the OSPD. ORED is not. XOR is not. The whole point of having an OSPD is that there has to be SOME nice totally unambiguous list of acceptable words, because there are always going to be corner cases of what is and is not actually a word, so rather than have infinite arguments, there’s just a list. Something either is on the list or it isn’t. And the OSPD, unlike some dictionaries, is very clear about what plurals, -er forms, un- forms, etc., are or are not words. (Although, as pointed out, the fact that it excludes dirty words complete defeats the point of that.) ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/23 "2013-04-25T03:17:00Z")
Arggh, you sent me to my OSPD IV, and yes, ZAS is a good word!! ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/24 "2013-04-25T16:46:59Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I just wanted to chime in that za is a stupid word BUT it does stand for the “idea” of pizza and not a particular pizza. So pluralizing it makes no sense. So such thing as zas! “We watched a movie, ordered some zas.” ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/25 "2013-04-25T17:11:13Z")
> [@drewtwo99](#): > > I just wanted to chime in that za is a stupid word BUT it does stand for the “idea” of pizza and not a particular pizza. So pluralizing it makes no sense. So such thing as zas! Well, a google search of “the zas” and “pizza” shows that there are plenty of folks who do use it in that manner. Personally, I don’t, but it’s defensible. The only interesting this is that just about everybody writes it as “za’s” I suppose because “zas” looks kind of weird. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/26 "2013-04-25T17:50:59Z")
_Zas_ does appear in the TWL - though it’s really stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Ichbin\_Dubist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/51bf81/32.png) [@Ichbin\_Dubist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichbin_Dubist)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/27 "2013-04-25T18:19:43Z")
Somewhere out there, agents of the Scrabble Liberation Front are hanging around in cafes and bars, carefully working their neologisms _qa_, _zi_, and _uj_ into casual conversations, biding their time… ---
**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/28 "2013-04-25T18:32:21Z")
“So, qa, have you seen the latest zi from Bakersfield? It’s uj magical! Such a ve zyxjique!” ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 25, 2013, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/29 "2013-04-25T18:38:16Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > [QUOTE=N9IWP] > We also rejected cert. [QUOTE=denquixote] You are correct in refusing to accept “cert.” [/QUOTE] Heck, the plaintiffs didn’t even have standing. [/QUOTE] _:golf clap:_ Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![OffByOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/45deac/32.png) [@OffByOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OffByOne)\ **Post date:** [May 9, 2013, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288/30 "2013-05-09T21:39:54Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > Arggh, you sent me to my OSPD IV, and yes, ZAS is a good word!! When you said “Arggh”, did you mean AARGH, AARRGH, or AARRGHH? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ored-and-zas-legal-in-scrabble/656288.md?page=1)