# Oregon bans the civil war

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [June 26, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247 "2020-06-26T18:25:55Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/1 "2020-06-26T18:25:55Z")

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they will no longer call the annual Oregon - Oregon St. FB game the Civil War

Oregon leads the series 66-47-10 (College FB ties were eliminated in 1997)

One of the most played rivalries

top 4 are Leigh-Lafayette, Yale-Harvard, Yale-Princeton and William and Mary - Richmond

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**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/2 "2020-06-26T19:34:16Z")

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OK. “The Big Game” it is. I can live with that. My husband and kids are officially platypuses (like 'em both). I am a Beaver fan.

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**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/3 "2020-06-26T20:30:25Z")

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I think it’s an opportunity to come up with something a little more original. The “Apple Cup” (Washington v. Washington State) doesn’t sound very football-like, but at least it doesn’t share the same name as a dozen other rivalries.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Crap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.crap/32/3131_2.png) [@Dr.Crap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Crap)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2020, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/4 "2020-06-26T20:48:12Z")

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They couldn’t prepend “Captain America” to the title?

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**Author:** ![Tabco](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tabco/32/7644_2.png) [@Tabco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tabco)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/5 "2020-06-27T01:55:25Z")

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I’m a student at OSU. I hadn’t really connected the name of this rivalry to the _American_ civil war, per se, but that was probably the particular war people might’ve been thinking off anyway, given when it received that moniker. Apart from the name, none of the iconography from the _actual_ war seems to have been used, like war uniforms, union vs. rebels, etc. At least, not from what I saw. The two schools are on a relatively north/south bearing from one another so maybe that was part of the inspiration for the name.

“Civil war” is a generic term so I don’t know what black people made of it, but the schools report receiving requests to change the name going back some years. From an email sent to students:

> In recent years, some students, faculty, alumni, student-athletes, OSU stakeholders and community members have questioned the appropriateness of this term.

Civil wars in general tend to have a lot of bloodshed and even genocide, so I think moving away from that name might be best, even if the American civil war had never happened.

The rivalry was once called the Oregon Classic so maybe they’ll just go back to that. The trophy for winning it is a platypus so maybe they’ll incorporate that somehow. Who knows.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/6 "2020-06-27T04:52:22Z")

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Maybe they could go with “The War of Oregon State Aggression.”

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/7 "2020-06-27T06:24:23Z")

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You would only want to keep calling it “the Civil War” if the same side lost every time. Boring.

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/8 "2020-06-27T06:27:30Z")

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BTW, I’m writing from Nebraska. We take our college football very seriously here-they are all ‘Big Games’ to us. 🏈 Go Big Red!! 🏈

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**Author:** ![Die\_Capacitrix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/die_capacitrix/32/9_2.png) [@Die\_Capacitrix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Die_Capacitrix)\
**Post date:** [June 27, 2020, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oregon-bans-the-civil-war/913247/9 "2020-06-27T17:04:21Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> Leigh-Lafayette

[Lafayette-Lehigh](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rivalry_(Lafayette%E2%80%93Lehigh)) is the correct reference. Alphabetically. 🙂

Interesting thread title. Certainly caught my eye.
