# Origin of "Batshit Crazy"

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [August 23, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884 "2006-08-23T14:20:45Z")
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### Author: ![Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de053/32.png) [@Jackknifed\_Juggernaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackknifed_Juggernaut)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2006, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884/1 "2006-08-23T14:20:45Z")

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I’m thinking about adding this term to my vocabulary, since I’ve recently run into several people who can be described by the term. Anyone know?

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### Author: ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2006, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884/2 "2006-08-23T14:31:20Z")

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> [@Jackknifed Juggernaut](#):
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> I’m thinking about adding this term to my vocabulary, since I’ve recently run into several people who can be described by the term. Anyone know?

Just a guess that “went bats” / “bats in the belfry” as a decades old metaphor for “crazy” morphed into “went bat + shit crazy”.

[Bats in the belfy phrase origin](http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/56600.html)

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### Author: ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2006, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884/3 "2006-08-23T15:14:12Z")

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Off to GQ! (The mods there have bats in their belfries, so they’ll be able to relate.)

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### Author: ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2006, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884/4 "2006-08-23T22:32:36Z")

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You could read the same thread from a [month](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=381630&highlight=bats+belfry) ago.

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### Author: ![Dr.Drake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Dr.Drake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Drake)
#### Post date: [August 23, 2006, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origin-of-batshit-crazy/369884/5 "2006-08-23T23:10:23Z")

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Cassell’s Dictionary of Slang, under “batshit,” gives to meanings: the one in the OP, and as a verb equivalent to “bullshit,” in the sense of gossip / tell lies. I’ve never heard “batshit” used as a verb, but then, I wasn’t around in the 60s.

Otherwise, they pretty well agree with everything else said in the two threads.
