# Original Star Wars Trilogy on DVD!

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 4, 2006, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353 "2006-05-04T04:28:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/41 "2006-05-04T18:40:10Z")

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> [@AtomicDog](#):
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> I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again - “and they call us **trekkies** anal?”
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> \<g,d&r\>

Dude, you have _no_ idea how anal SW fans can be. I know that some folks have gone to the trouble of figuring out the combination to Kirk’s safe, but AFAIK, **no** Trekkie has bothered to calculate the theoritical energy levels of weapons in Trekverse. [At least one SW fan has, however.](http://stardestroyer.net/tlc/) And a star destroyer would totally kick **all** the _Enterprise_s asses!

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/42 "2006-05-04T18:42:14Z")

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> [@KGS](#):
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> It was included with the bootleg. I’m fairly convinced, the SWHS will NOT be officially released in any format.
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> And yes, I’ve seen it. Parts of it, anyway, as a nearly unviewable movie file at 160x120 resolution, with extremely poor sound. From what I can make out, it’s bad. VERY bad. UNIMAGINABLY bad. So bad, in fact, that it MUST be preserved for the ages. Its badness borders on divine. 🆒

Here’s the first hour of it, if you can stand it. [The Star Wars Holiday Special, in all its glory.](http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7255661301905279600&q=star+wars+holiday+special)

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/43 "2006-05-04T19:19:17Z")

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> [@](#):
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> but AFAIK, no Trekkie has bothered to calculate the theoritical energy levels of weapons in Trekverse.

I’ve seen it on this very board, many times, mostly for purposes of comparing them with Star Wars weapons. It’s actually not all that hard, though, probably not hard enough to be particularly nerdy. When they tell you just how much antimatter there is in a photon torpedo, it’s just E = mc[sup]2[/sup].

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/44 "2006-05-04T19:46:07Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> I’ve seen it on this very board, many times, mostly for purposes of comparing them with Star Wars weapons. It’s actually not all that hard, though, probably not hard enough to be particularly nerdy. When they tell you just how much antimatter there is in a photon torpedo, it’s just E = mc[sup]2[/sup].

And yet, whenever they hit something they seem to have the explosive force of a cannonball…

-Joe

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/45 "2006-05-04T20:10:38Z")

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At $30 a pop, unless there’s some damn compelling extras on those discs, I’ll stick with my Laserdisc bootleg instead.

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**Author:** ![mobo85](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mobo85](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mobo85)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/46 "2006-05-04T22:34:04Z")

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> [@HubZilla](#):
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> I didn’t see that in the article, are you sure the Holiday Special is included?

**KGS** is not referring to this set- he’s referring to a set of bootleg DVDs he bought that are laserdisc rips of the Original Original Trilogy, with a bootleg copy of the infamous Holiday Special as an added bonus.

> [@Vaderspal](#):
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> What do they mean by the “2004 digitally remastered version?” Is this the same, special-edition, greedo-shooting-first film released last year in the 3-film set? Or is it a remastered version of the unaltered trilogy? While I wouldn’t mind buying two academically different versions of the NON-Special-Edition trilogy, I don’t really want to be conned into buying the special editions AGAIN just so I can get the originals as a “bonus” afterthought.

They’re referring to the Special Edition Original Trilogy, which was altered a little bit for its 2004 DVD release from its theatrical release in 1997. For example, instead of Greedo shooting first (as he did in the Theatrical Special Edition), Greedo and Han appear to fire at the same time. You’ll get both the original theatrical release as well as the Special Edition of each film (kind of like what Spielberg did with _E.T._ after fans demanded it).

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**Author:** ![Endless\_Flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Endless\_Flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Endless_Flight)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/47 "2006-05-04T22:38:29Z")

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I might be one of the few who enjoy the SE’s more than originals.

::waits for the tomatoes::

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/48 "2006-05-04T22:51:17Z")

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I haven’t bought any of the SW releases since the Dolby VHS editions. I’m still holding out for the HD Surround sound version. Give it another year or so, it’ll be here eventually.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/49 "2006-05-04T23:00:54Z")

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You all realize of course, that two or three years from now all these discs are going to be re-released on HD-DVD? And/or Blu-Ray?

Suckers.

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**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/50 "2006-05-04T23:12:56Z")

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> [@Tuckerfan](#):
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> Well, it took Lucas ages to get on the DVD bandwagon (and supposedly he’d talked Spielberg into delaying the release of his movies on DVD since Lucas didn’t think much of the format). I can imagine that Lucas (with his tight control over all things _Star Wars_) will hold off until things shake themselves out (Wonder if historians will refer to the coming HD format wars as “Betamax 2: Electric Boogaloo”?). Frankly, unless the price of HD TVs come down dramatically and there’s 8 billion hours of extra goodies on the the HD versions of the disks, I can’t see me buying them.

As I’ve heard the story Lucas thought DVD format was going to be a shortlived format with the next leap being hot on the heels. He thought DVD was the 8-Tract of the new millenium. It would be around and popular for 4 or 5 years but then it would be largely forgotten and tossed out in favor of the new thing.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/51 "2006-05-04T23:22:21Z")

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[Admiral Fish Head]  
IT’S A TRAP!  
[/AFH]

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**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/52 "2006-05-05T00:05:51Z")

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> [@Endless Flight](#):
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> I might be one of the few who enjoy the SE’s more than originals.
> 
> ::waits for the tomatoes::

I’m mostly with you. I don’t like Greedo shooting first, but it’s not enough to ruin the movie for me. Most of the other changes I’m fine with. Especially “A New Hope”. I never understood the antipathy to that; I mean I’m totally baffled by it.

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**Author:** ![Rachael\_Rage](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/71c47a/32.png) [@Rachael\_Rage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachael_Rage)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/53 "2006-05-05T00:10:28Z")

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> [@levdrakon](#):
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> You all realize of course, that two or three years from now all these discs are going to be re-released on HD-DVD? And/or Blu-Ray?
> 
> Suckers.

Yeah, but do you think the ORIGINAL theatrical versions will be in subsequent releases? It seems that someone had to twist Lucas’s arm to get him to do it even once, and I suspect the concession was that they won’t sell them on their own, but only packaged with the SpEds. grumble grumble…

Although I don’t put it past Lucasfilm to sell the lint from under their couch cushions because they know geeks will buy it, I don’t think we’ll see a lot of the unadulterated theatrical versions in the future. Especially as the picture gets incrementally better, the original’s flaws (I prefer to think of them as “charming imperfections”) will look worse.

> [@Endless Flight](#):
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> I might be one of the few who enjoy the SE’s more than originals.
> 
> ::waits for the tomatoes::

Heck, that’s nothing. Now, if you admit that you like the _prequels_ better, prepare for ground assault.

> [@Airman Doors USAF](#):
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> Here’s the first hour of it, if you can stand it. The Star Wars Holiday Special, in all its glory.

People can watch a full hour of that? :eek:

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**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/54 "2006-05-05T00:41:29Z")

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> [@NoClueBoy](#):
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> [Admiral Fish Head]  
> IT’S A TRAP!  
> [/AFH]

[It’s a trap!](http://www.itsatrap.net/)

I have a bad feeling about opening this with your speakers up.

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**Author:** ![Endless\_Flight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e480ec/32.png) [@Endless\_Flight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Endless_Flight)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/55 "2006-05-05T00:43:22Z")

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I actually like the prequels, not as much as the originals mind you. Revenge of the Sith is better as a whole than Return of the Jedi, in my mind, just for the scenes with Yoda, and the epic battle at the end.

I even like the Phantom Menace, and even would say I like the Gungans. I went and saw that movie seven times in the theatre, so they never curbed my enjoyment of the picture.

Lucas can’t do much wrong in my eyes. He brought me so much joy as a child, he’s almost got a lifelong pardon from me for any wrongdoings.

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**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/56 "2006-05-05T01:03:55Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> I’m mostly with you. I don’t like Greedo shooting first, but it’s not enough to ruin the movie for me. Most of the other changes I’m fine with. Especially “A New Hope”. I never understood the antipathy to that; I mean I’m totally baffled by it.

I’m not so much annoyed by “A New Hope” as much as all the fanboys that insist that “Episode IV: A New Hope” was the name all along. These fanboys are either too young to have ever seen the original theatrical release or have simply developed false memories. Despite their continued insistence, the opening crawl in 1977 had neither “Episode IV” nor “A New Hope”. The release of the original theatrical version should put this to rest once and for all.

And Han never gave Greedo a chance to shoot in the first place.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/57 "2006-05-05T01:51:13Z")

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Buddha bless the _Dope_ . I was going to buy the existing DVD’s next paycheck-now I can wait for the real thing! 😃

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/58 "2006-05-05T02:12:59Z")

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> [@Yookeroo](#):
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> I’m mostly with you. I don’t like Greedo shooting first, but it’s not enough to ruin the movie for me.

It is for me. Partially because of what it does to the character, but mainly because Han has a friggin blaster shot explode centimeters from his ear and he sits there grinning like an idiot. He doesn’t so much as flinch. Not to mention how this bounty hunter manages to miss a shot a drunken Stevie Wonder could make. How on earth did that seem like a good change to make?

And in my defense, I haven’t purchased a single Star Wars dvd yet. I knew they’d release the originals if I waited enough. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 2:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/59 "2006-05-05T02:27:39Z")

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> [@vaderspal](#):
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> People can watch a full hour of that? :eek:

Now that you’ve got that thought in your head, I feel as though it is my duty to tell you that the show is actually two hours long.

Hope your head doesn’t explode.

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**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\
**Post date:** [May 5, 2006, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/original-star-wars-trilogy-on-dvd/355353/60 "2006-05-05T02:37:08Z")

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> [@Airman Doors](#):
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> Now that you’ve got that thought in your head, I feel as though it is my duty to tell you that the show is actually two hours long.
> 
> Hope your head doesn’t explode.

I got through almost five or six minutes, but then I had to clean barf off my screen.

I’m so glad I missed this the first time. It’d have warped my development, I’m pretty sure.

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