# Origins and evolution of Democracy

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There’s an old SDMB thread that asked this question.

> [@How much is a million sesterces in 2015 dollars?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-is-a-million-sesterces-in-2015-dollars/724632/):
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> I recall reading at several points in Colleen McCullough’s [Masters of Rome](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masters_of_Rome) novels that in the late Roman Republic, to qualify for the Senate, a man had to have a fortune of at least a million sesterces (and it had to be in the form of a million sesterces worth of land; trade was un-Senatorial). How much is that in modern terms?

The answers wander all over the place from a sesterce equaling $10 to “unknowable,” with the latter far more believable to me.

However, @Jim_s_Son provides useful information, albeit a century after Augustus.

> [@How much is a million sesterces in 2015 dollars?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/how-much-is-a-million-sesterces-in-2015-dollars/724632/15):
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> You could do some calculations based on values from Pompeii in 79 A.D. loaf of bread = half a sestertius half liter of wine= half to one sestertius 6.67 kg wheat = 7 sestertii a bucket = 2 sestertii

Here’s a better site that gives daily pay in asses, and a sesterce is said to be worth 2.5 asses (hence the name), so this refers to the Republic. There were 4 asses to one sesterce in the Empire.

> **[Ancient Salaries: How Much Were Romans Getting Paid?](https://premium-ancient-coins.com/en-us/blogs/news/ancient-salaries-how-much-were-romans-getting-paid?srsltid=AfmBOoqmif4SdZTeup_DlIZAyrPBt3Not2PKfw5MUkp4y2mF8GMQlApD)**
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> Ancient Rome was famous for its widespread prosperity and complex economic systems. Based on its famous wealth, you may be wondering: how rich really were the Romans? That is – how much money were they making? Thankfully, the Romans wrote a whole lot...

An artisan made 12 asses a day. But a legionary makes 10 asses a day or four sesterces and that’s much more than 900 a year. So compare with caution.

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