# Origins of car fall video? **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [May 2, 2006, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039 "2006-05-02T02:09:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/21 "2006-05-03T04:44:29Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > It doesn’t mean they were actively trying to KILL the biker, though. (Which, it seems, people like **threemae** are suggesting.) We shouldn’t throw around words like “homicidal” and “sociopathic”, when the words “incredibly stupid” will suffice. Whether they were attempting to kill him, hurt him, damage his bike, or just scare the wits out of him, it was cruelty at best, attempted homicide at worst. Stupid is an entirely different animal. “Stupid” doesn’t imply nasty or cruel. Look up “sociopathic” in a dictionary and tell me it doesn’t fit these kids (and no, it doesn’t fit all teenagers). ---
**Author:** ![Euthanasiast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/6f9a4e/32.png) [@Euthanasiast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euthanasiast)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/22 "2006-05-03T05:11:19Z")
> [@threemae](#): > > No. Using the actual footage from the website and then the time-coding from the slowed down version of the footage you’ll notice the following chain of events: > > 1. The door is hanging open from the first frame, not suddenly opened prior to striking the cyclist. The idea that the driver just swirved towards the cyclist as a joke is completely unsupported by any evidence available to us, and at any rate doesn’t explain why the person didn’t close the door upon the vehicle swerving. > > 2. There’s no evidence of car-surfing, either, which involves standing upon a car while moving (a display of what I would term tragic as opposed to sociopathic stupidity). > > 3. The man to fall out of the car doesn’t slide at all, I don’t know where you’re getting that from. > > 4. His friends only freak out as soon as their friend falls out the door, not because of the cyclist. In other words, they seem to care that their friend has face-planted into a stopped car but couldn’t give a damn about the cyclist they were trying to do the exact same to. The parked car enters the frame from the forward right, confirmed by the movement of the head on impact at frame 313… Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![EvilGhandi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@EvilGhandi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilGhandi)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/23 "2006-05-03T05:41:56Z")
I saw this a year or so ago and remember thinking, “no way that guy lived.” I too combed the web for an article on the incident. The best I could come up with was the blog where this vid was “they claim” originally hosted before it went WWWild. No way I can recall the URL. IIRC their story was a group of them were out “goofing” in one of their cars and decided to go and “slap the hats off” some of their friends and tape their reactions. The slapper lost his grip and face planted a parked car. From what I remember all the guys in the vid were high school kids, even the ones on bikes, they all knew each other. The face plant kid wasn’t seriously hurt and was posting to his blog in a few days. So homicidal and sociopathic don’t seem to apply nearly as well as Irresponsible, foolhardy and damn fortunate do. The phrase “licence revoved until age 21” has a nice ring too. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/24 "2006-05-03T05:49:20Z")
> [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > Whether they were attempting to kill him, hurt him, damage his bike, or just scare the wits out of him, it was cruelty at best, attempted homicide at worst. Uh…no. It was “attempted homicide” ONLY if they _intended_ to kill him. There is no law for “attempted killing by stupidity”, if they only meant to scare him / hurt him / piss him off. “Negligent homicide” would apply, but only if the bike kid died (or the face-plant kid, if they charged the driver) – and both lived, apparently. Do not attempt to use legal terms you do not understand, please. ---
**Author:** ![threemae](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f9b8f/32.png) [@threemae](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/threemae)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/25 "2006-05-03T07:27:55Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Uh…no. It was “attempted homicide” ONLY if they _intended_ to kill him. There is no law for “attempted killing by stupidity”, if they only meant to scare him / hurt him / piss him off. “Negligent homicide” would apply, but only if the bike kid died (or the face-plant kid, if they charged the driver) – and both lived, apparently. > > Do not attempt to use legal terms you do not understand, please. That’s why it’s attempted homicide at worst. We’re going off the evidence in the video, not random claims with absolutely no basis in fact like the statement about the kid sliding for a dozen feet before hitting the car. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/26 "2006-05-03T18:00:14Z")
Here’s a dude who needs some instant karma. [Lucky Driver](http://www.jokaroo.com/extremevideos/lucky_driver.html) Watch the top right of the screen. This guy must dominate Frogger. ---
**Author:** ![muttrox](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a8b319/32.png) [@muttrox](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/muttrox)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/27 "2006-05-03T20:00:21Z")
Without getting too much off topic, Ebaum has a reputation for stealing content and making money off of it. [http://www.ebaumsworldsucks.com/](http://www.ebaumsworldsucks.com/), many other sites out there. You might want to find someone else hosting the video. ---
**Author:** ![KGS](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/90ced4/32.png) [@KGS](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KGS)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2006, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/28 "2006-05-03T20:23:29Z")
> [@Mahaloth](#): > > Here’s a dude who needs some instant karma. > > [Lucky Driver](http://www.jokaroo.com/extremevideos/lucky_driver.html) Whoa. How the HELL did he do that?? :eek: I’ve seen some close calls in NASCAR, but this lucky bastard tops 'em all. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [May 4, 2006, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039/29 "2006-05-04T04:15:30Z")
> [@KGS](#): > > Do not attempt to use legal terms you do not understand, please. Do not attempt to respond to posts without reading them, please. Note the bold phrases in the post to which you were responding: > [@InvisibleWombat](#): > > Whether they were **attempting to kill him** , hurt him, damage his bike, or just scare the wits out of him, it was cruelty at best, **attempted homicide at worst**. I think “attempting to kill him” translates quite well to “attempted homicide.” After actually taking a moment to go back and read the pertinent posts, do you agree? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/origins-of-car-fall-video/355039.md?page=1)