# Orlando Gunmans 911 calls will be heavily edited by FBI before release

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**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [June 19, 2016, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orlando-gunmans-911-calls-will-be-heavily-edited-by-fbi-before-release/757831 "2016-06-19T21:21:30Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orlando-gunmans-911-calls-will-be-heavily-edited-by-fbi-before-release/757831/41 "2016-06-21T12:37:10Z")

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> [@Grumman](#):
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> There is no contradiction there. Hezbollah is not Shia-and-only-Shia like ISIL is Sunni-and-only-Sunni, and he claimed Hezbollah membership a year before ISIL was a thing. So it’s not like he was simultaneously pledging allegiance to a world Shia order (and kill all the Sunnis!) and a world Sunni order (and kill all the Shia!); he considered himself a member of an organisation that would unite all Muslims and then sometime in the subsequent three years switched to one that would unite “all” Muslims (but Shia don’t count).

But at roughly the same time he was professing the Hizbollah is da bomb, he was also saying he had connections with Al Qaeda.

So we have two theories to explain this:

First, that he was a pan Islamist, which he was able to draw a distinction with to contrast with the pan Arabist philosophies of other terrorist groups, and therefore could identify the common tenents of three terrorist groups who are literally trying to kill each other every day, in an effort to unite Muslims for a campaign of terror, which you seem to suggest; or,

Second, that he had no fucking clue what he was saying and barfed up names of terrorist organizations to scare people.

Until more evidence comes to light, I’m sticking with number two, thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2016, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orlando-gunmans-911-calls-will-be-heavily-edited-by-fbi-before-release/757831/42 "2016-06-21T19:17:21Z")

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> [@Ravenman](#):
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> … So we have two theories to explain this:
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> First, that he was a pan Islamist, which he was able to draw a distinction with to contrast with the pan Arabist philosophies of other terrorist groups, and therefore could identify the common tenents of three terrorist groups who are literally trying to kill each other every day, in an effort to unite Muslims for a campaign of terror, which you seem to suggest; or,
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> Second, that he had no fucking clue what he was saying and barfed up names of terrorist organizations to scare people.
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> Until more evidence comes to light, I’m sticking with number two, thank you very much.

Or to put it another way, theory #2 is that the shooter was a clueless crackpot. Theory #1 is basically a variant of the old standard Great Scary Muslim Conspiracy™ in which every Muslim in the world is supposed to be involved.

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**Author:** ![Common\_Tater](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/common_tater/32/13846_2.png) [@Common\_Tater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Common_Tater)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2016, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orlando-gunmans-911-calls-will-be-heavily-edited-by-fbi-before-release/757831/43 "2016-06-26T19:38:43Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> It’s being treated as an example of terrorism, which is a federal crime, which means it is now a federal investigation, with federal jurisdiction. The 9-1-1 call is evidence pursuant to a federal investigation of a potential federal crime, which may result in the prosecution of the deceased gunman’s wife.

Workplace violence? Oh wait, that was the other slaughter. I’ll try to keep up.

Say, where is she at, anyway?

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