# Orly Taitz gets the judicial smackdown **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608 "2009-09-18T16:22:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/41 "2009-09-23T16:26:48Z")
> [@Typo\_Knig](#): > > I haven’t read many legal opinions. Leagl Dopers - how hard of a smackdown is this? It look like a pretty thorough smackdown to my untrained eyes, but how unusual is this kind of opinion? The key element which makes this a legal whoopin’ is that after finding against Rhodes on one element of her case, and acknowledging that that finding is enough to settle the matter in Obama’s favor, he goes on to find against her on all the other issues. This is the judicial eqivalent of continuing to run up the score when you’re ahead by 53 points in the fourth quarter. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/42 "2009-09-23T18:27:24Z")
[QUOTE=Tranquilis] Based on Taitz’ actions and statements, it’s fairly plausible that Taitz filed without instructions… Rhodes could make a good case that Taitz has destroyed her career. [/QUOTE] Taitz certainly destroyed the last guy’s career. Stefan Cook [tried and failed](http://www.stripes.com/article.asp?section=104&article=63941) to get the often debunked Birther theory ruled on. For his “trouble” he lost his security clearances (I don’t suppose any company would want someone who thinks the President is a fraud and a “usurper” to have top-level security clearances) and so because he needed his security clearances to do his job, [he got fired](http://canadiancynic.blogspot.com/2009/07/actions-have-consequences.html). It would seem that Capt. Connie Rhodes didn’t keep up on the news about Cook. What kind of person hires a lawyer who gets her clients fired? But Cook was a reservist, filing the lawsuit on his behalf made no difference to his military life, only his personal life. Rhodes is regular military, which means she, unlike Cook, can get a court martial slapped on her ass for this lawsuit. Birthers are really not very smart. Duh. > [@Count\_Blucher](#): > > “Ssssssh! Be Vewwwy vewwwy Qwuiet…! We’re fiwwing **Wahsuits**! Ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-ah-!” Wahsuits! I am so stealing that! It won’t be long I’m sure, since Oily is a well-funded batshit insane bitch. Look for it soon: “Oily Titz files yet another Waaaaahsuit.” ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/43 "2009-09-23T18:40:52Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > Taitz certainly destroyed the last guy’s career. Look for it soon: “Oily Titz files yet another Waaaaahsuit.” Win. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/44 "2009-09-23T18:41:04Z")
> [@leander](#): > > I don’t think there’s much of a market in the porn industry for batshit crazy middle aged women who CAN’T SHUT THE FUCK UP! > > I could be wrong though. 😉 > [@Equipoise](#): > > Oh, there’s a fetish for everything under the sun, and moon, and Kenya. Rule 34, right? ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/45 "2009-09-23T21:38:10Z")
> [@Polycarp](#): > > Rule 34, right? A-yup. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/46 "2009-09-23T22:03:10Z")
I find what Orly wrote on her blog about all this to absolutely special: > [@Orly "Batshit Insane" Taitz on her bloglet](#): > > I will respond to Judge Land’s outrageous attack and threat of sanctions. This is very similar to what I have seen in the communist dictatorship in the Soviet Union. When judges refuse to hear the cases on the merits, when they summarily dismiss the case within a couple of days while they are supposed to give the counsel 20 days to respond by their own rules, when they take away from the plaintiffs their right to trial by jury, when they stifle free speech and take away right to counsel by threatening $10,000 sanctions if the attorney ever brings Obama illegitimacy case again, that is tyranny. That is judiciary as well as the top brass in the Department of Justice and Department of Defense colluding in perpetrating massive fraud and treason on the citizens of this country and taking away their constitutional rights. What is next? They will throw me in FEMA GULAG? I hope each and every citizen of this country rises against this tyranny. I will be seeking all means of redress available to me by law. I will be seeking Rule 11 discovery to prove that Obama is indeed illegitimate, my case was not frivolous and not only I don’t owe $10,000 in sanctions, but the defendants owe costs and my reasonable attorneys fees. These fees just went up significantly. WIN. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/47 "2009-09-23T22:11:51Z")
FEMA gula…whaaaaa? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/48 "2009-09-23T22:13:07Z")
Judge Land’s [New Order](http://ia311029.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605.17.0.pdf), almost as good as his first opinion, albeit more exasperated. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/49 "2009-09-23T22:23:17Z")
This is one of the most delusional crazies I’ve heard in a long time. ---
**Author:** ![Shirley\_Ujest](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/45deac/32.png) [@Shirley\_Ujest](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shirley_Ujest)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/50 "2009-09-23T22:46:27Z")
> [@YogSosoth](#): > > The sad part is, these types of people still wont get it no matter how many lawsuits they bring are laughed out of court. I’m sure Orly thinks its all a big conspiracy anyway, and you cant prove conspiracists wrong (its just another conspiracy!) How do they keep track of all the conspiracies? Oh wait…The Illuminati!! ---
**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/51 "2009-09-23T23:24:28Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > Judge Land’s [New Order](http://ia311029.us.archive.org/1/items/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605/gov.uscourts.gamd.77605.17.0.pdf), almost as good as his first opinion, albeit more exasperated. I love the smell of Rule 11 in the morning. _deep breath_ Ahhhhhhhh… ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 23, 2009, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/52 "2009-09-23T23:38:36Z")
“Although the first amendment may allow Plaintiff’s counsel to make these wild accusations on her blog or in her press conference, the federal courts are reserved for hearing genuine legal disputes and not as a platform for political rhetoric that is disconnected from any legitimate cause of action.” Pwnt. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/53 "2009-09-24T00:16:25Z")
Gotta love a judge who quotes Yogi Berra in a ruling. Worth noting that Judge Land is a Republican (who served three terms in the Georgia Senate as same) who was appointed by George W. Bush. You just know he really wanted to italicize the word _competent_ here: > [@](#): > > Furthermore, competent counsel would have understood that the Court was required to address abstention prior to ruling upon the motion for a temporary restraining order. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/54 "2009-09-24T00:28:47Z")
So I’m wondering if this should go in US Government/US History courses a few decades from now. On one hand frivolous and crazy, on the other hand a hilarious end to the school year. ---
**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/55 "2009-09-24T00:46:34Z")
There is something very, very wrong with Taitz referring to her “reasonable attorneys fees”. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/56 "2009-09-24T00:56:04Z")
Anyone else find it a little ironic that somebody who has repeatedly challenged the legitimacy of the democratically elected head of government is accusing somebody _else_ of treason? > [@Hal\_Briston](#): > > There is something very, very wrong with Taitz referring to her “reasonable attorneys fees”. Well, she did go to a really shitty law school, so she’s probably not charging top dollar… ---
**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/57 "2009-09-24T02:56:17Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > The key element which makes this a legal whoopin’ is that after finding against Rhodes on one element of her case, and acknowledging that that finding is enough to settle the matter in Obama’s favor, he goes on to find against her on all the other issues. > > This is the judicial eqivalent of continuing to run up the score when you’re ahead by 53 points in the fourth quarter. I feel like he is being too hard on her every time he cites a judicial precedent. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/58 "2009-09-24T03:48:10Z")
Man, talk about running up the score… It’s like he’s kicking a puppy. A really, _really_ crazy puppy. Also a stupid puppy. A crazy, stupid puppy. A yappy, annoying one. With a bad attitude. And lacking even rudimentary house training. Oh, wait… Now I want to kick that puppy, too. And this bit: > [@](#): > > [Plaintiff] …maintains that “the United States District Courts in the > 11th Circuit are subject to political pressure, external control, and > . . . subservience to the same illegitimate chain of command which > Plaintiff has previously protested.” It’s Remedial Civics, Oily… ‘Seperation of powers’ ring any bells? ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/59 "2009-09-24T04:23:34Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Anyone else find it a little ironic that somebody who has repeatedly challenged the legitimacy of the democratically elected head of government is accusing somebody _else_ of treason? Not to mention wanting Obama to prove his innocence in order to defend this country’s principles. You know, like “innocent until proven guilty.” Did this chick even take the citizenship exam? ---
**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/60 "2009-09-24T04:26:51Z")
Judgements usually make for pretty dry reading, but these are downright entertaining. I can only hope Ms. Taitz does not give up the fight in order that there may be more of them. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608.md?page=4)