# Orly Taitz gets the judicial smackdown **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 18, 2009, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608 "2009-09-18T16:22:33Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/61 "2009-09-24T05:02:42Z")
> [@Lakai](#): > > I feel like he is being too hard on her every time he cites a judicial precedent. Well, apparently she doesn’t have a Westlaw account because _she_ never cites any, so that is a bit unfair. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/62 "2009-09-24T05:07:46Z")
> [@Bosstone](#): > > Not to mention wanting Obama to prove his innocence in order to defend this country’s principles. You know, like “innocent until proven guilty.” > > Did this chick even take the citizenship exam? I like this smackdown in the first ruling. > [@](#): > > The Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in 3 > a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than > eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. See > Federal Election Commission, Presidential Pre-Nomination Campaign > Disbursements Dec. 31, 2008, [http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/](http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/) > 20090608Pres/3\_2008PresPrimaryCmpgnDis.pdf (last visited Sept. 15, 2009). > Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who > received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the > President. Press Release, Federal Election Commission, 2008 Presidential > Campaign Financial Activity Summarized (June 8, 2009), available at > [http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/20090608PresStat.shtml](http://www.fec.gov/press/press2009/20090608PresStat.shtml). It would > appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would > support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office > he sought. > > Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is > qualified to serve. Congress has not instituted impeachment proceedings, > and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has > rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office. > See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Cong. (2009) (commemorating, by vote of 378-0, > the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating, “the 44th > President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August > 4, 1961”). Hey bitch, how come you know something that all the other candidates didn’t (or knew but didn’t take advantage of) and that the saner members of Congress don’t? Delusions of grandeur much? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/63 "2009-09-24T05:09:42Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, apparently she doesn’t have a Westlaw account because _she_ never cites any, so that is a bit unfair. But she has AOL polls to cite. Surely they count for a…well, a LOT! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/64 "2009-09-24T05:12:07Z")
> [@Equipoise](#): > > But she has AOL polls to cite. Surely they count for a…well, a LOT! Next week on _Dirty Jobs_: Realtor/Dentist/Attorney/Whackjob Oily Titz calls on her Facebook friend list to file _amicus curiae_ briefs. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/65 "2009-09-24T05:17:11Z")
None of her friends could spell or pronounce that. (actually, I couldn’t spell or pronounce that, but I’m not an ironic Facebook friend of hers) ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/66 "2009-09-24T05:54:38Z")
Having read these two decisions, I can say I haven’t been this entertained since John Jones’ ruling in the _Kitzmiller_ intelligent design case. I am impressed. ---
**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/67 "2009-09-24T14:49:13Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Next week on _Dirty Jobs_: Realtor/Dentist/Attorney/Whackjob Oily Titz calls on her Facebook friend list to file _amicus curiae_ briefs. I don’t think even Mike Rowe would brave muck _that_ nasty. ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/68 "2009-09-24T17:19:02Z")
> [@Hello\_Again](#): > > I love the smell of Rule 11 in the morning. > > _deep breath_ > Ahhhhhhhh… And the heck of it is, Orly and her supporters are treating this like a victory. “Since the judge imposed Rule 11 sanctions on her, now she gets discovery to defend against her sanctions! They _have_ to produce his real birth certificate now!” :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/69 "2009-09-24T18:27:31Z")
The irony of this thread is that I’m reading it while in a required continuing legal education class on Federal Practice (a day full of 8 hours of video-taped lecture…fun!). The biggest distinction between State and Federal courts is that Federal judges tend to take a very active role in the litigation, tending to hold the parties to strict deadlines, and tending to resolve issues and issue rulings without much pre-emption of the parties. Lots of nonsense gets tolerated in state courts simply because the judges often leave it to the parties to bring issues to the courts’ attention. I’ve never practiced in Federal court, but those who have done both tells me it is so refreshing to have involved, attentive judges helping move the case along. Lots of crazy shit gets filed in courts. But, if you have any hope of success, the last place your going to get it is at the Federal level. She was practically begging for a verbal tongue lashing. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/70 "2009-09-24T18:46:15Z")
Maybe with _your_ tongue. ---
**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2009, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608/71 "2009-09-24T18:47:39Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Maybe with _your_ tongue. Dude…and I used to be a fan of yours, too! 😉 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-gets-the-judicial-smackdown/510608.md?page=3)