# Orly Taitz resurfaces in New Hampshire **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 21, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633 "2011-11-21T13:11:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [November 21, 2011, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/21 "2011-11-21T23:37:29Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > But furthermore… _what’s the big deal_? The big deal is that they wish to call him a nigger and foolishly think this is a discreet way of doing so. ---
**Author:** ![OttoDaFe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ottodafe/32/356_2.png) [@OttoDaFe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OttoDaFe)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/22 "2011-11-22T01:26:00Z")
You forgot “uppity.” ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/23 "2011-11-22T02:12:00Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > The whole Birther movement is beyond retarded. The first (and in my opinion most logically consequent) question would be: “what would hypothetically convince you that Obama is a United States citizen?” First they asked for his birth certificate. When it was supplied, they demanded the long-form version. When _that_ was supplied, they cried that it was a forgery. Orly Taitz has a plan. She’s going to eventually on seeing the original paper copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate so she can verify its veracity. But once she has that original in her hand, she’s going to stuff it in her mouth and swallow it before anyone can stop her. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/24 "2011-11-22T02:21:49Z")
> [@OttoDaFe](#): > > You forgot “uppity.” [Rush has got that covered](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/21/rush-limbaugh-michelle-obama-uppity-ism_n_1105989.html?ref=media), at least in reference to Michelle Obama. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/25 "2011-11-22T02:22:13Z")
The reality is that birthers are a bunch of lost and confused people. They want to live in the America of their imagination. The country they think used to exist back in the good old days. “Our” country - a place where “they” weren’t around. It’s not just black people that disturb them. They don’t understand Jews or foreigners or gays or city people or hippies or feminists or teenagers - the world is a big scary place and they want it to go away. ---
**Author:** ![Savannah](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b3f665/32.png) [@Savannah](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Savannah)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/26 "2011-11-22T04:22:11Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > The big deal is that they wish to call him a nigger and foolishly think this is a discreet way of doing so. That’s how I explained it to my husband a year or so ago. They really want to call him a n-----, but can’t. And it’s made them insane. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/27 "2011-11-22T06:14:34Z")
> [@Exapno\_Mapcase](#): > > Birth Certificate him, Danno. It was an espionage plot involving Kenya, Red Chinese spy Wo Fat, and a half-breed baby. Somehow Mcgarret’s former military career factors in, an old girlfriend shows up - and dies, and some dirty hippy living in a beach hut doesn’t realize that he’s involved in something more than just hustling tourists. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/28 "2011-11-22T10:54:58Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > The big deal is that they wish to call him a nigger and foolishly think this is a discreet way of doing so. > [@Savannah](#): > > That’s how I explained it to my husband a year or so ago. They really want to call him a n-----, but can’t. And it’s made them insane. It’s more than that though. In their America, there’s no way a black man can be president, so he must be illegitimate. ---
**Author:** ![Bill\_Door](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/50afbb/32.png) [@Bill\_Door](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bill_Door)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/29 "2011-11-22T12:31:38Z")
The birthers just got through eight years of saying “Whether you voted for him or not, he is the President of the Uited States, and failure to support him is treason.” Then they ended up with a Democratic Negro Person in the White House. They could tolerate the Negro thing, if it had been Condi or Colin, they could tolerate the Democratic thing, if he’d been white, but the two of them together were intolerable, therefore, with the power of magical thinking, he wasn’t really the president. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/30 "2011-11-22T13:20:44Z")
I’ll be waiting anxiously for the RNC to officially denounce the STATE SENATORS who were part and parcel of this particular run of idiocy. Somehow, I don’t think it will happen. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/31 "2011-11-22T13:49:22Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > The whole Birther movement is beyond retarded. The first (and in my opinion most logically consequent) question would be: “what would hypothetically convince you that Obama is a United States citizen?” His hypothetical party-conversion. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/32 "2011-11-22T15:08:28Z")
> [@Tristan](#): > > I’ll be waiting anxiously for the RNC to officially denounce the STATE SENATORS who were part and parcel of this particular run of idiocy. > > Somehow, I don’t think it will happen. Well, it might. [The RNC has semi-officially disavowed birtherism](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0426/RNC-Chair-Donald-Trump-is-wrong-on-birther-issue-video). ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/33 "2011-11-22T19:30:42Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > she’s going to stuff it in her mouth and swallow it before anyone can stop her. She does that with a lot of things. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/34 "2011-11-22T20:24:22Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, it might. [The RNC has semi-officially disavowed birtherism](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0426/RNC-Chair-Donald-Trump-is-wrong-on-birther-issue-video). Here’s the frightening quote from that April 2011 article: > [@](#): > > A New York Times/CBS poll conducted April 15-20 found the birther issue resonates with Republican voters. Among the public at large, 25 percent thought President Obama was not a ”natural born citizen.” Among Republicans, 45 percent said they believe he was born outside the US. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percent. 45% of Republicans who replied to that poll were THAT deluded, and THAT stupid, and THAT manipulated. \ ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/35 "2011-11-22T20:31:26Z")
Gods, who was it on Meet The Press who wouldn’t just say flat out that the birthers were a band of lunatics? Was it T-Paw when he still thought he could be President? It was a prominent GOP member, not someone’s no-name alderman from Assfuck, Virginia. Edit: I got impatient and Googled it myself. It was John Boner. Good job, JB! ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/36 "2011-11-22T22:39:38Z")
While we’re at it, John McCain is a dual citizen of the US and Panama. I find it especially amusing (in a, you know, not-amusing-at-all way) that this whole farce started when the other guy really wasn’t born in the US, and technically wasn’t even a citizen of the US at the time of his birth under the laws then in place. ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/37 "2011-11-22T23:11:21Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > But furthermore… _what’s the big deal_? It’s a part of the constitution that has become truly no longer relevant in today’s world. If Obama wasn’t a US citizen, it would be a legal catastrophe… But this isn’t some issue like him passing wide-spread censorship laws, or outlawing the ownership of anything more dangerous than a pair of safety scissors, or declaring war on Russia. This is him _not being a born citizen_. That’s not a huge deal. At least, not 3-year-long, fanatic-devotion witch hunt level. It has absolutely no effect on his ability to implement policy or make decisions in the name of the USA – _we voted for him, remember_? That’s true if we’re talking about some weak-tea Revisionist Birtherism whereby, OK, sure, President Obama was born in Honolulu, but because his father was Kenyan and his mother was only 18 the future President therefore had Dual Citizenship and was a Subject of the British Empire at birth and is therefore _technically_ not eligible for the Presidency according to this inkblot they found on the original copy of the Constitution kept in the nitrogen-filled bulletproof glass case in the National Archives. In True Blue Birtherism, on the other hand, President Obama was actually born in Kenya. If _that_ were true, then there has been a massive Conspiracy which planted a short-form birth certificate, a long-form birth certificate, and birth announcements in the Honolulu newspapers _fifty years ago_ as part of a deep-laid plot to plant a moderate centrist Democrat with a funny-sounding name in the White House. Presumably They are now just waiting for the time to be ripe to order their pawn to sign off on the Executive Order transferring all the money from the Federal Reserve Bank to the secret bank accounts in Nairobi. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [November 22, 2011, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/38 "2011-11-22T23:47:15Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > They are now just waiting for the time to be ripe to order their pawn to sign off on the Executive Order transferring all the money from the Federal Reserve Bank to the secret bank accounts in Nairobi. Well I hope it happens soon, because Mr. Bento Mbouti has promised me 30% of the total once he has satisfied all modalities. ---
**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/39 "2011-11-23T00:22:20Z")
Well, you know, we can’t END the birther nonsense, but maybe we can channel towards more… useful causes. I say we get some physicists and engineers in on the crazy, and then drive them so bonkers with needing to disprove his citizenship we get a working time machine. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/40 "2011-11-23T00:25:31Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > While we’re at it, John McCain is a dual citizen of the US and Panama. I find it especially amusing (in a, you know, not-amusing-at-all way) that this whole farce started when the other guy really wasn’t born in the US, and technically wasn’t even a citizen of the US at the time of his birth under the laws then in place. Hmm… Now I wonder why McCain’s citizenship wasn’t questioned when Obama’s was. I know there’s a reason, I just can’t seem to quite put my finger on it. Wow. Ever have one of those moments when something so obvious is staring you right in the face but you simply don’t see it? It’s on the tip of my tongue. No, no, don’t tell me… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633.md?page=3)