# Orly Taitz resurfaces in New Hampshire **URL:** \ **Category:** Politics & Elections\ **Created:** [November 21, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633 "2011-11-21T13:11:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/41 "2011-11-23T00:30:59Z")
It was, for all of thirty seconds, and then Democrats were like, “Oh, he was born of American parents on a freaking _U.S. military base_” and let it the fuck go. ---
**Author:** ![PigArcher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/bcef8e/32.png) [@PigArcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PigArcher)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/42 "2011-11-23T02:09:48Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > While we’re at it, John McCain is a dual citizen of the US and Panama. I find it especially amusing (in a, you know, not-amusing-at-all way) that this whole farce started when the other guy really wasn’t born in the US, and technically wasn’t even a citizen of the US at the time of his birth under the laws then in place. No, he was born in a US territory that is now part of Panama. He might be eligible for Panamanian citizenship, but as far as I know he’s never attempted to claim it. Also, he’s white and properly “American” by whatever ineffable standards the birthers hold. ---
**Author:** ![Onomatopoeia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/onomatopoeia/32/4145_2.png) [@Onomatopoeia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Onomatopoeia)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/43 "2011-11-23T08:05:59Z")
> [@Onomatopoeia](#): > > Hmm… Now I wonder why McCain’s citizenship wasn’t questioned when Obama’s was. I know there’s a reason, I just can’t seem to quite put my finger on it. Wow. Ever have one of those moments when something so obvious is staring you right in the face but you simply don’t see it? It’s on the tip of my tongue. No, no, don’t tell me… > [@kenetic](#): > > Also, he’s white and properly “American” by whatever ineffable standards the birthers hold. AH! That’s it! I knew it would come to me. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [November 23, 2011, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/44 "2011-11-23T14:54:24Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, it might. [The RNC has semi-officially disavowed birtherism](http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/monitor_breakfast/2011/0426/RNC-Chair-Donald-Trump-is-wrong-on-birther-issue-video). The RNC has semi-kinda-mostly disavowed it. It would like to see them censure or whatever the mouth breathing cretins who are walking in retarded lockstep with Orly on this one. That won’t happen. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/45 "2011-11-25T00:02:48Z")
Every time I hear her name I immediately think of [this picture](http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg?1229112642). ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/46 "2011-11-25T00:09:54Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > Every time I hear her name I immediately think of [this picture](http://s3.amazonaws.com/kym-assets/entries/icons/original/000/000/015/orly.jpg?1229112642). Or [this one](http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-dQTWC3HMx80/TsWhGm9zL4I/AAAAAAAAAmc/BDUYroI1_r0/s320/OrlyTaitzOwl.jpg). ---
**Author:** ![Katriona](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/katriona/32/113_2.png) [@Katriona](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Katriona)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/47 "2011-11-25T17:32:58Z")
> [@DianaG](#): > > 100% of Birthers are racists, retards, or some combination thereof. There are no exceptions to this rule. Yep. I discovered this yesterday when my uncle revealed himself to be a birther. He tried really hard to keep race out of it, but we were shutting him down at every turn. Where’s the birth certificate? Well, he’s released 2, how many do you want? They’re obviously fakes. Funny, the copy I had to request for my husband when I was joining the DAR looks exactly like the “short form” version released in 2008, except Tony’s says Washington instead of Hawaii. That was acceptable enough to get him a passport, get him into the army, and me into that oh-so-conservative bastion of WASPiness, the DAR. And on and on and on. We mostly just got a deer-in-headlights look when he couldn’t refute anything we said and he’d try to move on to the next thing. (We actually think he’s developing dementia or something. He’s gone completely out of character on some non-political things recently, too) ---
**Author:** ![Rick\_Kitchen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rick_kitchen/32/522_2.png) [@Rick\_Kitchen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rick_Kitchen)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/48 "2011-12-21T06:07:50Z")
There’s now the deluded discovery that since there is a Native Hawaiian movement to declare the takeover of the Kingdom of Hawaii illegal, that means that Hawaii is not a legal state, and therefore Obama was not born in the United States. Or else since Obama’s mother was only 18 1/2 when she gave birth, she had not been a legal US citizen for the full length of time that is required (in some secret document) to be a native born citizen. And now Orly Taitz is running for the Senate from California. Because she did so well in the last election when she ran for state Secretary of State and lost the Republican primary to, shudders, a _black man_! ---
**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/49 "2011-12-21T13:09:13Z")
Seeing as she’s not a natural-born citizen, I don’t think she should be allowed to hold office. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/50 "2011-12-21T13:22:49Z")
What is it with women born in the Soviet Union moving to the United States and starting insane political movements that capture the minds of Republicans? ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/51 "2011-12-21T13:28:59Z")
Fun fact: opponents of Polish President Bronisław Komorowski have started rumors that his grandfather (IIRC) was actually a murdering Cossack who slit the throats of the real Komorowski and stole his identity, and thus the President is actually a fake and (worse) a Russian. Every country has its crazies with their theories about the ruling elite, although I think the UK wins with [David Icke](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Icke) and the “they’re all lizards!” theory. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/52 "2011-12-21T14:48:12Z")
Well, yes, but Icke’s theories cover everyone \*else’s \*ruling elite as well as Britain’s. I know he declared that Obama, Clinton, both Presidents Bush were lizards. Annunaki, I think. ---
**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/53 "2011-12-21T15:03:09Z")
I sincerely hope that the members of New Hampshire’s Ballot Law Commission are not being distracted from anything important to deal with this nonsense. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/54 "2011-12-21T15:20:52Z")
When Obama released the long form certificate I and a hundred thousand others said it would make no different to the Birthers and of course that prediction has turned out to be absolutely true. Not that I’m taking a lot of pride in it. It’s like predicting the sun will rise in the East. There are two kinds of people who believe in conspiracy theories; people who just sort of mildly buy something because they heard something about it and haven’t though a lot about it, and people who are really invested in the idea. You can help the former, but not the latter. There is no evidence, none, no real evidence, no theoretical evidence, none whatsoever, that will convince a birther that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. It doesn’t matter what documents, what evidence, what witnesses, or what logic you provide. If you have a video of his birth with Pearl Harbor visible in the background it would make no difference. If you presented with with a working time machine and whisked them back to 1961 to personally witness the birth, it would make no difference. There is nothing you can do. This applies to 9/11 truthers, moon hoax believers, etc. Go after the people who believe in shit CASUALLY. Don’t bother worrying about the Taitzes. She’s nuts and someday she’ll be dead and that’ll be that. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/55 "2011-12-21T16:48:44Z")
Bah, what a cynical view :rolleyes: I’m sure when Sheriff Joe and his ‘Cold Case Posse’ conclude their investigation (their _real_ investigation, as opposed to everything that’s come before), they will either reveal shocking concrete evidence of shenanigans or completely vindicate and put to rest the question of citizenship. (mmmmm… Poe’s Law!) ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/56 "2011-12-21T20:04:57Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > There is no evidence, none, no real evidence, no theoretical evidence, none whatsoever, that will convince a birther that Barack Obama was born in Hawaii. It doesn’t matter what documents, what evidence, what witnesses, or what logic you provide. If you have a video of his birth with Pearl Harbor visible in the background it would make no difference. If you presented with with a working time machine and whisked them back to 1961 to personally witness the birth, it would make no difference. There is nothing you can do. Well, duh. Producing more evidence isn’t going to turn him white. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/57 "2011-12-21T20:34:04Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Well, yes, but Icke’s theories cover everyone \*else’s \*ruling elite as well as Britain’s. I know he declared that Obama, Clinton, both Presidents Bush were lizards. Annunaki, I think. Not true, but I’m pretty sure Boehner is a lizard. (You can tell by how oblivious he appears to his failure to simulate human coloring.) ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/58 "2011-12-21T21:02:46Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > What is it with women born in the Soviet Union moving to the United States and starting insane political movements that capture the minds of Republicans? What’s scary is that Ayn is the sane one… ---
**Author:** ![MEBuckner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mebuckner/32/2896_2.png) [@MEBuckner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MEBuckner)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/59 "2011-12-21T23:25:52Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > If you have a video of his birth with Pearl Harbor visible in the background it would make no difference. :eek: Barack Obama was responsible for the ATTACK ON PEARL HARBOR?!?!!1! OMG! It all fits! _BARACK OBAMA IS REALLY A JAPANESE KAMIKAZE PILOT FROM 1941!!!_ He’s one of those guys who’s been hiding out in the jungle, refusing to accept the War is over, and now he’s going to Destroy America in order to avenge the Emperor!!! ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [December 21, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/60 "2011-12-21T23:45:07Z")
> [@MEBuckner](#): > > OMG! It all fits! _BARACK OBAMA IS REALLY A JAPANESE KAMIKAZE PILOT FROM 1941!!!_ He’s one of those guys who’s been hiding out in the jungle Your theory is clearly ludicrous. He hasn’t been hiding out in the jungle, but rather an uncharted desert island, which explains the tan. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633.md?page=4)