# Orly Taitz resurfaces in New Hampshire

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [November 21, 2011, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633 "2011-11-21T13:11:02Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/121 "2011-12-22T15:33:40Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> I have it all written down and will be using it during my petition to the court to remove Obama from the ballot. I will be going to court on jan 23, 2012!
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> Can’t WAIT!

[Perhaps I can save you some time and effort.](http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf) Hint: you’re going to lose.

> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> Nobody Bodders Meeeeeeee

Having a black president apparently bodders you.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/122 "2011-12-22T15:36:20Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> I have it all written down and will be using it during my petition to the court to remove Obama from the ballot. I will be going to court on jan 23, 2012!

Just so you know, you’re going to lose and the court may tell you to stop wasting its time. This argument has been heard and dismissed by a bunch of courts and every peg of it has been debunked over and over again.

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/123 "2011-12-22T15:38:11Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> The Hawaiian state health director and governor, who have the last word on the matter.

NOT without an amendment to the Constitution, THEY DON’T!  
This will all come out, once ONE state removes Obama from the ballot.  
You can help remove Obama from the ballot. See how you can help by going here:  
[http://obamaballotchallenge.com/](http://obamaballotchallenge.com/)

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/124 "2011-12-22T15:39:40Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yes. And? They’ve had no problems calling out Obama on things he said that aren’t true. If you don’t like FactCheck, try [Politifact](http://www.politifact.com/subjects/obama-birth-certificate/).
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> Not that you won’t have a pre-manufactured excuse to dismiss them too, of course.

Thanks, but I will stick with the Library of Congress where the TRUTH can be found!

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/125 "2011-12-22T15:42:44Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> [Perhaps I can save you some time and effort.](http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf) Hint: you’re going to lose.
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> Having a black president apparently bodders you.

Yea and that’s why I pushed for Cain and made videos supporting him!  
Sorry, but your race card is DEAD!

I also say the Marco Rubio is NOT eligible, does that make me racist too?

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/126 "2011-12-22T15:43:48Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> I have it all written down and will be using it during my petition to the court to remove Obama from the ballot. I will be going to court on jan 23, 2012!
> 
> Can’t WAIT!

As amusing as your court appearance will be, I think you should reconsider it. You have no possibility whatsoever of winning, your case has no merit (as in zero, none, nada, zilch), and there is a possibility that you could be fined for filing a frivolous lawsuit.

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/127 "2011-12-22T15:44:55Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> Just so you know, you’re going to lose and the court may tell you to stop wasting its time. This argument has been heard and dismissed by a bunch of courts and every peg of it has been debunked over and over again.

Sorry, but this case has never been heard. Once it is heard on the merits, the truth will come out and you all will be proven wrong. That’s why you/Obama are afraid to let a case move onto the merits…cause he will LOSE!

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/128 "2011-12-22T15:45:56Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> Did you not watch the video, FRANK?

No, I didn’t watch the video, and I won’t watch it.

Please explain to me why Obama (and Rubio, I guess) are ineligible for the presidency under the terms of the 14th amendment.

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/129 "2011-12-22T15:46:51Z")

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> [@BobLibDem](#):
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> As amusing as your court appearance will be, I think you should reconsider it. You have no possibility whatsoever of winning, your case has no merit (as in zero, none, nada, zilch), and there is a possibility that you could be fined for filing a frivolous lawsuit.

My state, clearly has in the law that you must be a natural born citizen and I have the proof that he isn’t, straight from the Library of Congress. If they look at my facts, there’s no way I can lose!

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/130 "2011-12-22T15:48:28Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> No, I didn’t watch the video, and I won’t watch it.
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> Please explain to me why Obama (and Rubio, I guess) are ineligible for the presidency under the terms of the 14th amendment.

I already answered this Frank, did you miss it?

Everyone seems to forget the phrase “subject to the jurisdiction”, which is why the Law/Amendment went astray. If you look at the congressional debates when they were writing the 14th Amendment, you will find the truth and you will see that the 14th Amendment has been 100% perverted!

What exactly did “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” mean to the framers of the Fourteenth Amendment? Luckily we have Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the Thirteenth Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase:

“The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’ What do we mean by ‘complete jurisdiction thereof?’ NOT OWING ALLEGIANCE TO ANYBODY ELSE. That is what it means.” [http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14](http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?collId=llcg&fileName=073/llcg073.db&recNum=14)

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/131 "2011-12-22T15:48:31Z")

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> Sorry, but this case has never been heard.

[Yes it has](http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf). I posted a link above. You lost.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/132 "2011-12-22T15:48:32Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> …and I have the proof that he isn’t

No you don’t.

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/133 "2011-12-22T15:49:35Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> No, I didn’t watch the video, and I won’t watch it.

That’s why you will never know the truth!

I know, the truth hurts, I don’t blame you for not watching it!

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/134 "2011-12-22T15:50:59Z")

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Serious question: have you ever been prescribed psychoactive medication? Have you stopped taking it? If so, why?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/135 "2011-12-22T15:51:41Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> You can help remove Obama from the ballot. See how you can help by going here:  
> [http://obamaballotchallenge.com/](http://obamaballotchallenge.com/)

From the site rules:

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> This message board is intended as a medium for public discussion. Do not post spam, including but not limited to advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, solicitations, offers to trade or barter, charitable appeals, or other messages primarily intended to promote a cause, venture, organization, event (except Straight Dope-related events), website, or other entity or activity, whether or not money is involved.

You’re welcome to debate this ridiculous point here - other people have tried - but if you just want to shout at people, ask them to sign petitions, and disregard what they’re saying, then you’re not going to last very long here.

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**Author:** ![KenyanBornObama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e68b1a/32.png) [@KenyanBornObama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KenyanBornObama)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/136 "2011-12-22T15:52:16Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> [Yes it has](http://www.in.gov/judiciary/opinions/pdf/11120903.ebb.pdf). I posted a link above. You lost.

We have hearings set in 5+ states already to remove Obama from the ballot and we are going in order of the Primary dates and will hit all 50 states. ONE state in 50 WILL look at the facts. This is different, because EVERY voter has standing on this issue and we will be heard!

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**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/137 "2011-12-22T15:52:51Z")

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You can’t wave away United States v Wong Kim Ark. The precedent is quite clear. You haven’t a leg to stand on.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/138 "2011-12-22T15:53:41Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> "The provision is, that ‘all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.’ That means ‘subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.’

Obama was born in Hawaii, and was (and is) subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/139 "2011-12-22T15:55:27Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> That’s why you will never know the truth!
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> I know, the truth hurts, I don’t blame you for not watching it!

I don’t generally click on links to videos here. It’s not just you.

I do hope that you don’t intend to stand up in court and January 23rd and tell the judge, “Just watch this video; it explains everything!” You must have some sort of coherent argument prepared for court, why not lay it out here?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [December 22, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orly-taitz-resurfaces-in-new-hampshire/603633/140 "2011-12-22T15:58:08Z")

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> [@KenyanBornObama](#):
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> We have hearings set in 5+ states already to remove Obama from the ballot and we are going in order of the Primary dates and will hit all 50 states. ONE state in 50 WILL look at the facts. This is different, because EVERY voter has standing on this issue and we will be heard!

Read the opinion I linked to. An Indiana federal court _did_ look at the facts.

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