# Orthodox Shitheads Defy Law In Order To Endanger Children

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 4, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606 "2012-09-04T02:35:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/301 "2012-10-10T19:56:49Z")

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Are you really this dense, Bricker? We all told you we knew it wasn’t pedophilia. We described it as pedophilia as a way of poking fun at it. You can’t claim you didn’t know that. You just decided to ignore it to be a douchebag.

You popped into a thread and, though you agreed entirely with the gist of a post, you instead focused on the one tiny part you disagreed with. Barring someone with a mental disorder, that’s being a douchebag. People called you out on your douchebaggery, and you doubled down. So, guess what? When you act like a douchebag in the pit, people attack you. It no longer matters if you have any point. As long as you are still acting like a douchebag, you will be treated poorly. If you don’t like it, don’t be a fucking douchebag.

And, yes, now I’m bumping this thread to remind you, lest you forget, that doing what you did will cause this reaction, and that only you can prevent it by not being a pedantic douchebag.

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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/302 "2012-10-10T20:08:51Z")

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This seems like an ineffective way to achieve anything useful.

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**Author:** ![Maeglin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8baadc/32.png) [@Maeglin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Maeglin)\
**Post date:** [October 10, 2012, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/303 "2012-10-10T22:59:39Z")

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Did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement, **BigT**?

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**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/304 "2012-10-11T12:41:29Z")

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> [@Bricker](#):
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> If there’s a one in one hundred million possibility they should stop?

They could let the parents know. Doesn’t seem that much to ask.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/305 "2012-10-11T16:55:03Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement, **BigT**?

He’s been off his ‘don’t bump dead threads’ meds for the past few days.

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**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/306 "2012-10-11T17:00:51Z")

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> [@Maeglin](#):
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> Did you fall down and smack your little head on the pavement, **BigT**?

He has invaluable experience in this area of his post. He just wanted to share it.

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> When you act like a douchebag in the pit, people attack you. It no longer matters if you have any point. As long as you are still acting like a douchebag, you will be treated poorly. If you don’t like it, don’t be a fucking douchebag.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/307 "2012-10-11T17:09:44Z")

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Turns out it’s harder than it looks.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/308 "2012-10-11T18:48:42Z")

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_Somebody_ had to illustrate **Bricker** ’s mistake.

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**Author:** ![SmellMyWort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SmellMyWort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmellMyWort)\
**Post date:** [October 11, 2012, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/309 "2012-10-11T21:53:34Z")

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Just dip it in kosher salt; problem solved.

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**Author:** ![Cheshire\_Human](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Cheshire\_Human](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cheshire_Human)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/310 "2012-10-12T03:16:49Z")

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You forgot to suck the blood, first. Damn, dip that kiddie-dick in kosher salt _first_, and you’ll hear one banshee of a screaming kid.

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**Author:** ![BigAppleBucky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigapplebucky/32/178_2.png) [@BigAppleBucky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigAppleBucky)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/311 "2012-10-12T03:38:44Z")

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> [@BigT](#):
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> . . . (Bricker) . . . You just decided to ignore it to be a douchebag.
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> You popped into a thread and, though you agreed entirely with the gist of a post, you instead focused on the one tiny part you disagreed with. Barring someone with a mental disorder, that’s being a douchebag. People called you out on your douchebaggery, and you doubled down. So, guess what? When you act like a douchebag in the pit, people attack you. It no longer matters if you have any point. As long as you are still acting like a douchebag, you will be treated poorly. If you don’t like it, don’t be a fucking douchebag.
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> And, yes, now I’m bumping this thread to remind you, lest you forget, that doing what you did will cause this reaction, and that only you can prevent it by not being a pedantic douchebag.

Bigger douchbag than this?  
[http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/11/11/anigif\_enhanced-buzz-14630-1349970843-11.gif](http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/11/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14630-1349970843-11.gif)

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**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2012, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/312 "2012-10-12T04:37:20Z")

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> [@BigAppleBucky](#):
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> Bigger douchbag than this?  
> [http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/11/11/anigif\_enhanced-buzz-14630-1349970843-11.gif](http://s3-ec.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced/web05/2012/10/11/11/anigif_enhanced-buzz-14630-1349970843-11.gif)

Oh, shit… where’s my damn shotgun?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/313 "2014-08-16T03:59:30Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Interesting. You’ve completely managed to sidestep the actual issue\*, which is that regardless of their motives, _these rabbis are planning to defy the law because they disagree with it_. We are not talking about some kind of ecumenical imperative here; the proposed legislation doesn’t ban the practice, it simply requires informed consent.
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> \*though most of the other people posting in the thread have too.

_Central Rabbinical Council v. N.Y. City Dep’t of Health & Mental Hygiene_ (2d Cir. 2014) holds this week that the New York regulation must be evaluated under strict scrutiny.

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> We hold that the challenged ordinance is neither neutral nor generally applicable and thus is subject to strict scrutiny under the Free Exercise Clause. We vacate the order denying the preliminary injunction and remand for the district court to apply strict scrutiny to the ordinance.

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**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2014, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/314 "2014-08-16T13:52:54Z")

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Since you chose to dig up a two year old thread, allow me to remind you of something that is as true today as it was two years ago…

> [@LavenderBlue](#):
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> Oh fuck off, you smug, pedantic twit.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/315 "2014-08-17T10:39:06Z")

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The whole idea of cosmetic circumcision of infants is messed up and should be abolished. If these kids want to grow up and make a covenant with God by cutting off parts of their penis while knowing the risks I wouldn’t object. But no, God commanded it to be in eight days, else the kids be cut off from their people. Even though circumcision is supposed to represent a change in the heart as well as the flesh. Parents can make the decision for what’s in the baby’s heart? Religion offers the world such transcendental moral wisdom.

And **Bricker** , man, the Catholic sex scandals must’ve been hell for you. People are still making pedo priest jokes. Does that infuriate you, or did you learn to let that stuff slide?

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**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/316 "2014-08-17T12:14:17Z")

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> [@marshmallow](#):
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> The whole idea of cosmetic circumcision of infants is messed up and should be abolished. If these kids want to grow up and make a covenant with God by cutting off parts of their penis while knowing the risks I wouldn’t object. But no, God commanded it to be in eight days, else the kids be cut off from their people. Even though circumcision is supposed to represent a change in the heart as well as the flesh. Parents can make the decision for what’s in the baby’s heart? Religion offers the world such transcendental moral wisdom.
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> And **Bricker** , man, the Catholic sex scandals must’ve been hell for you. People are still making pedo priest jokes. Does that infuriate you, or did you learn to let that stuff slide?

Perversely[sup]\*[/sup] enough, the pedo references to Catholic priests are at least based in a horrible but very real set of historical circumstances. I feel like it’s unjustified to paint any given priest with that label, but the Church as an institution earned some of that scorn.

But that’s not true for _mohels_. The sniggering allusions here are without justification of any kind, except the apparent belief if you oppose anyone, then any accusation about them is fair game, and any defense of them constitutes defense of anything they’ve ever done.

- No pun intended.

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/317 "2014-08-17T12:28:00Z")

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Dude, they’re sucking babies dicks.

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**Author:** ![JKellyMap](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jkellymap/32/15880_2.png) [@JKellyMap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JKellyMap)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 12:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/318 "2014-08-17T12:55:59Z")

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> [@zoid](#):
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> Dude, they’re sucking babies dicks.

Not with the motive you are ascribing. Is someone administering mouth-to-mouth resuscitation “frenching” the victim?

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**Author:** ![Cyros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a698b9/32.png) [@Cyros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cyros)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/319 "2014-08-17T13:00:01Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Not with the motive you are ascribing. Is someone administering mouth-to-mouth resuscitation “frenching” the victim?

I’ve heard many jokes that imply just that (mostly referencing it as an unwanted homosexual advance).

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 17, 2014, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/orthodox-shitheads-defy-law-in-order-to-endanger-children/633606/320 "2014-08-17T13:07:42Z")

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> [@JKellyMap](#):
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> Not with the motive you are ascribing. Is someone administering mouth-to-mouth resuscitation “frenching” the victim?

My point is that regardless of motive if you suck babies dicks you’re going to have to accept that you’ll take a little ribbing.

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