I’m not so sure. People love “To Catch A Predator” as entertainment.
So where’s the peer-reviewed rebuttal?
Then you should learn a bit more about some of those circumcision advocates. Does Right Wing Watch freak you out? How about the ADL? Southern Law?
The Right Wing, anti-Semitism, etc. all seem, well, just a trifle more significant as issues than combatting the evils of “circumcision advocates”.
I am reminded of this thread:
Someone has to pitch a fit or nothing will change, and ignorance will go unfought. I think you’re engaging in a logical fallacy of some sort. If it’s not as big a deal as genocide or something, what are you whining about?
Yes, and we have evolved a whole system for fighting ignorance - involving science, and peer review, wierd and wonderful stuff like that.
When I see a website that is basically a blog devoted to “pitching a fit” attacking scientific papers, with links to articles questioning the value of peer review, all in aid of fighting some alleged outlandish conspiracy whose aim is to “promote circumcision” (why, exactly, said conspiracy exists in the first place is left unstated) … well, let’s just say it makes me kinda skeptical.
Now it could well be that we sheeple have been had by big medicine, what with their “science” and “peer review” pulling the wool over our eyes. Or it could be that these guys are nuts with a bee in their bonnet. Oh, how can we ever decide?
It is to laugh. Welcome to the Village of Kiryas Joel.
The Satmar Sect Hasidim own the village of Kiryas Joel. They also own the political machine of Orange County, New York as well as controlling relevant political positions in the state capitol, Albany, New York.
I lived on one of two roads that go into the village of Kiryas Joel for 15 years.
Total control. Total power. It’s … stunning to live with.
And, as to the ritual of pressing the mouth to the genitals, I ( who have a reputation around here for rather… virulent reactions… to sexual abuse stories and threads… ) see zero sexual about this. I do not for one minute believe that there’s a sexualized element to this at all.
Rather, here’s my Raised As A Reform Jew But Lived Next To K.J. Take: As a former E.M.T. who worked a few thousand hours in a village directly adjacent to Kiryas Joel ( and responded to a few dozen calls alongside KJ EMS ), I witnessed what can only be described as ZAKA-like behavior. The members of both Kiryas Joel Volunteer EMS ( and Hatzolah) as well as civilians would return to the scene of an accident, or some would remain behind, to mop of every bit of blood they could in the case of a fatality. It is simply part of the laws they follow, known as Halakha.
The Mohel presses his mouth to the freshly cut genitals to catch the blood. While this isn’t a fatality moment ( we hope ! ), the “logic” of keeping the bodily fluids from being disposed of is steeped in Jewish law.
I find it personally horrific. But I understand the tradition. Having said that, it is fair for even a relatively secular person such as myself to say that the most important law is to protect life. You’re quite ill and may not skip taking medications with water? It’s Yom Kippur? The Torah commands that you do everything you can to protect and preserve life, including your life. If that means taking a mouthful of water 3 times a day and therefore not fasting, well, God is down with that.
A Mohel responsible for the death of a baby because he transmitted Herpes is guilty of the greatest of sins- taking a life.