# Osama bin Laden is Dead

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [May 2, 2011, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437 "2011-05-02T02:46:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/41 "2011-05-02T03:50:37Z")

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> [@Larry\_Borgia](#):
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> Wow, not even a drone, an actual special forces raid.

I’d like to buy a round of beer for those guys. Good work. How would you like to have been _the_ guy?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/42 "2011-05-02T03:52:45Z")

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Is gas cheap yet?

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> My question is could this have happened sooner if our leadership had been more focused on getting him?

Doesn’t sound like it. He was killed in a mansion in Islamabad, so it’s hard to imagine that at least part of the Pakistani government wasn’t complicit in keeping his presence there a secret.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/43 "2011-05-02T03:55:51Z")

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Good speech. You can tell it was put together pretty hastily, but it hit the right notes. Hopefully this terrorism thing starts winding down.

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**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/44 "2011-05-02T03:58:20Z")

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> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> I’d like to buy a round of beer for those guys.

They’re never buying a beer for themselves again, I’d wager.

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/45 "2011-05-02T04:01:02Z")

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I’m already getting out the little red, white and blue ribbon that I wear every July 4 and September 11, and tomorrow I’ll ride to work and revel in the giant headlines because I’m sure everybody will buy the papers. Congrats to the military who got him. Gracious speech from the President.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/46 "2011-05-02T04:01:28Z")

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> [@Mosier](#):
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> Hopefully this terrorism thing starts winding down.

This “terrorism thing?” According to the news tonight bin Laden hasn’t figured prominently in active terrorism circles for years. Terrorism has moved past bin Laden. If anything, one should consider that terrorism may increase (short-term), with a potential for more anger/terrorism against America/Americans as part of a larger anti-Islam propaganda campaign.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/47 "2011-05-02T04:04:22Z")

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I’m waiting for the Onion headline: “Trump demands long-form Osama death certificate.”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/48 "2011-05-02T04:05:01Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> They’re never buying a beer for themselves again, I’d wager.

I doubt their names are going to be released. I think their reward will be the satisfaction of a job well done. Hopefully a metric ton of cash too.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/49 "2011-05-02T04:05:03Z")

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I’m not buying _any_ of this until the White House releases the long form death certificate.  
edited to add-Damn! Trumped by **RTF**!

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**Author:** ![Lochdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/edb3f5/32.png) [@Lochdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lochdale)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/50 "2011-05-02T04:05:13Z")

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A great result for democracies and humanists everywhere. Good for Obama and good for Bush. This has been going on for some time. Death is really good news but in this case…

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/51 "2011-05-02T04:06:04Z")

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I think this will be huge. Obama gave the order to go in directly. US special forces in concert with Pakistani support went in and killed him. Ballsy call by Obama…can you imagine the political fallout if they had fucked up??

And as for Osama…I’m glad he’s gone and think it will be a lot more significant than jaded 'dopers seem to think it will be based on most of the posts I’m seeing here.

-XT

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**Author:** ![ExVoxMachina](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/59ef9b/32.png) [@ExVoxMachina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExVoxMachina)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/52 "2011-05-02T04:06:38Z")

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Is this an “out” for the allied forces in Afghanistan?

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**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/53 "2011-05-02T04:08:06Z")

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> [@Lochdale](#):
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> Good for Obama and good for Bush.

Good for Bush? Hardly, he never seriously tried to catch Bin Laden. At one point he said Bin Laden didn’t matter and had to be pushed by Congress into at least going though the motions.

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**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/54 "2011-05-02T04:09:17Z")

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> [@Duckster](#):
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> This “terrorism thing?” According to the news tonight bin Laden hasn’t figured prominently in active terrorism circles for years.

Not on an operational level, maybe. He was certainly a powerful symbol though, and controlled a good portion of the cash. You don’t have to be the one making the decisions to be an important figure. He was THE inspiring face of Al Qaida and similar radical Islamic movements.

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> Terrorism has moved past bin Laden. If anything, one should consider that terrorism may increase (short-term), with a potential for more anger/terrorism against America/Americans as part of a larger anti-Islam propaganda campaign.

I certainly am afraid of that. Osama supporters will be wanting reprisals.

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**Author:** ![UltraVires](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ecccb3/32.png) [@UltraVires](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UltraVires)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/55 "2011-05-02T04:13:28Z")

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Great day for justice in the world.

It seems to be that Pakistan has been playing us for fools. He was “hiding” in a fucking Pakistani military complex. Those fuckers didn’t know where he was? If this pans out, then fuck them and their aid.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/56 "2011-05-02T04:16:24Z")

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> [@Der\_Trihs](#):
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> Good for Bush? Hardly, he never seriously tried to catch Bin Laden. At one point he said Bin Laden didn’t matter and had to be pushed by Congress into at least going though the motions.

Horseshit. The joint special forces thing got rolling under Bush. I’m not going to give him all that much credit, as the gutsy call was Obama’s, but it’s ridiculous to say Bush did nothing to try and get Osama.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/57 "2011-05-02T04:16:25Z")

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> [@villa](#):
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> Yes. It’s a time for celebration, but also a time to send a message. Let the body be dealt with in whatever is the correct manner of his religion. Desecrating the corpse would not be a smart choice.

The only reason I agree is because we shan’t bring ourselves to their level. However, if anyone’s naked and beaten corpse deserves to be impaled on a spike in front of the White House, it is Osama bin Laden’s.

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**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/58 "2011-05-02T04:20:26Z")

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May Osama rot in Hell, if there be such a place. But, gotta say the cheering crowd outside the White House is kinda…tacky. This isn’t a football game.

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**Author:** ![NiceGuyJack](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/niceguyjack/32/3069_2.png) [@NiceGuyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NiceGuyJack)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/59 "2011-05-02T04:20:34Z")

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Has Obama finally earned his Nobel Peace Prize?  
Or do you think this is an embarrassment for the Norwegian Nobel committee?

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**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\
**Post date:** [May 2, 2011, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden-is-dead/580437/60 "2011-05-02T04:20:46Z")

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> [@xtisme](#):
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> Horseshit. The joint special forces thing got rolling under Bush. I’m not going to give him all that much credit, as the gutsy call was Obama’s, but it’s ridiculous to say Bush did nothing to try and get Osama.
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> -XT

Bush would have loved to have killed Ben laden. I am sure it was a very big thing in his admin.

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