# Osama bin Laden

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 22, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565 "2006-07-22T02:05:18Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/1 "2006-07-22T02:05:18Z")

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So you got a big laugh out of September 11 did you. Especially the part about some your boys not realizing this was gonna be a suicide mission.

I hope they play this tape over and over on the Arab news networks.

See [http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-11-2001-8573.asp](http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/12-11-2001-8573.asp)

(Is this for real?)

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 2:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/2 "2006-07-22T02:20:25Z")

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Look at the date at the bottom. 12/11/200 **1**. Still in Bush’s “dead or alive” phase. He would have said something.

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/3 "2006-07-22T02:29:31Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Look at the date at the bottom. 12/11/200 **1**. Still in Bush’s “dead or alive” phase.

We _have_ changed phases since then haven’t we?  
Or maybe returned to the pre-9/11 phase:  
[Al-Qaida regrouping, on the march](http://www.upi.com/SecurityTerrorism/view.php?StoryID=20060719-035436-2715r)

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> It’s back, a top terrorism expert told the Senate Foreign Relations Committee Tuesday.
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> “Today, al-Qaida has not only regrouped, but it is on the march,” said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at the Rand Corp. “Al-Qaida is now functioning exactly as its founder and leader, Osama bin Laden, envisioned it.”

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/4 "2006-07-22T02:30:52Z")

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Have you guys heard about this dude Hitler? What an asshole!

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**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/5 "2006-07-22T02:38:30Z")

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> [@ElvisL1ves](#):
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> Look at the date at the bottom. 12/11/200 **1**.

Ya, but just above that was “copyright 2006”.

I’ve never once heard about a particular tape where bin Laden admits that not all the hijackers knew they were gonna die.

Sorry everyone for wasting your time. :o

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/6 "2006-07-22T03:14:44Z")

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Actually, I recall hearing rumors to that effect, that several of the hijackers hadn’t got the “Dear Martyr” memo.

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**Author:** ![Sam\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Sam\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sam_Stone)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/7 "2006-07-22T03:22:02Z")

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Guys, that video made the rounds a LONG time ago. It’s Osama in a cave, surrounded by a few flacks, right? I’m surprised none of you saw it. It was aired on CNN repeatedly.

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**Author:** ![Uncommon\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Uncommon\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uncommon_Sense)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/8 "2006-07-22T03:34:18Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Actually, I recall hearing rumors to that effect, that several of the hijackers hadn’t got the “Dear Martyr” memo.

Speaking of hijackers…I mean, welcome back to this place. You’ve been missed, or mis-placed, not sure which yet. 🙂

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**Author:** ![bloo-bird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/c77e96/32.png) [@bloo-bird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bloo-bird)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/9 "2006-07-22T04:05:41Z")

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Does he always live in the cave? if not, how can it be so hard to find him? Do we not have satellites?

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**Author:** ![DxZero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DxZero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DxZero)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/10 "2006-07-22T04:10:57Z")

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> [@bloo-bird](#):
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> Does he always live in the cave? if not, how can it be so hard to find him? Do we not have satellites?

Satellites showing what? A guy in a robe walking around the mountains of Afghanistan?

I don’t know if that’ll narrow it down much.

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**Author:** ![Revenant\_Threshold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f1d935/32.png) [@Revenant\_Threshold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revenant_Threshold)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/11 "2006-07-22T04:47:53Z")

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I seem to recall he has some kidney trouble, or something that requires medical equipment, anyway. That might limit his movement.

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 11:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/12 "2006-07-22T11:41:11Z")

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He might be headed for some caves in, where was it, Bora Bora or something like that? Never mind, a company of Marines will get him any day now and bring him here for trial.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/13 "2006-07-22T15:17:02Z")

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Back in the 1960s, he was at the Marianas Trench, but only for 20 minutes.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/14 "2006-07-22T16:58:46Z")

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[Bush thinks about bin Laden every day sometimes](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7fS2p2ZmCA).

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/15 "2006-07-22T17:10:39Z")

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Friend **Bricker** is not guilty. Or, at least, not indictable. Much the same thing, in some circles.

I myself have crossed words with him, and presented arguments of such utter clarity and irrefutable fact that I fairly expected him to fling himself at my feet in abject renunciation of his error. In which I have been disappointed.

But in this instance, error was made and error admitted. _Nolo contendere_ and \* stark staring decisis\*, go, and sin no more. The bar is open.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/16 "2006-07-22T17:12:41Z")

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Hoo, doggies, did I screw the pooch on that one! Clearly, that post is for another thread entire. Oopsy!

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**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/17 "2006-07-22T17:50:52Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> Hoo, doggies, did I screw the pooch on that one! Clearly, that post is for another thread entire. Oopsy!

**Bricker** , **bin Laden**.  
**bin Laden** , **Bricker**.  
Both **B** words. It’s a natural mistake anyone could make.  
In fact, I believe the _original_ title of the infamous August 6 PDB was “ **Bricker** Determined to Attack Inside the United States.”

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**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/18 "2006-07-22T18:06:04Z")

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What the hell. Long as **'luci** ’s back, that’s the important thing.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2006, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/19 "2006-07-22T18:16:40Z")

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> [@Sam Stone](#):
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> Guys, that video made the rounds a LONG time ago. It’s Osama in a cave, surrounded by a few flacks, right? I’m surprised none of you saw it. It was aired on CNN repeatedly.

How soon we forget. When this tape was released it was shown almost nonstop on the all the news networks.

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**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\
**Post date:** [July 23, 2006, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/osama-bin-laden/365565/20 "2006-07-23T23:09:18Z")

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> [@bloo-bird](#):
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> Does he always live in the cave? if not, how can it be so hard to find him? Do we not have satellites?

Doesn’t matter; the Bush Administration [closed the intelligence unit tasked to find Osama](http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F70D15FC39540C778CDDAE0894DE404482) anyway, so he could moon the satellites for all anyone cares.

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