# Oscar nominations are out **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 22, 2008, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498 "2008-01-22T14:32:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/21 "2008-01-22T17:00:09Z")
[QUOTE=HelloNinja] I’m happy to see \*Juno \* get four nominations, though I’m surprised it get a directing nod for Jason Reitman. [/QUOTE] Reitman absolutely deserves the nomination. _Juno_ works (to the extent it does) almost entirely because of his careful, thoughtful direction. The script is hyperstylized, self-conscious, and cutesy, and in less capable hands would have resulted in an utterly excruciating film. Reitman keeps the cast grounded, and makes sure the actors are speaking _with_ each other instead of _at_ each other. When a movie is praised for the excellence of its entire cast, as _Juno_ is, the credit should go to the director, because he’s the guy keeping everyone on the same page. ---
**Author:** ![SkipMagic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skipmagic/32/20706_2.png) [@SkipMagic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SkipMagic)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/22 "2008-01-22T17:01:27Z")
Since **Equipoise** went to all that trouble creating the nominees post, I merged her thread with this one. (Didn’t want to see it go to waste, and it’ll save someone else from the task.) ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/23 "2008-01-22T17:02:04Z")
Some various trivia:[ul][li]_The Bourne Ultimatum_ becomes the first film to have its 3rd installment nominated for an Oscar when the previous two installments were completely ignored by the Academy[_]Though not nominated himself, Josh Brolin appears in films tallying 11 nods total–more than any other actor this year[_]Cate Blanchett becomes only the 2nd performer (after winner Linda Hunt) to be nominated for playing a member of the opposite gender[_]The Pirates franchise now totals 11 nominations, tying it with the Rocky series for 6th most in Academy history[_]There have been only 5 animated films in Oscar history to be nominated in the screenplay category, and 4 of them (including this year’s _Ratatouille_) have been from Pixar[_]Enchanted becomes the 4th film to get 3 nominations in the Original Song category, and the first to not get any other nods in any other category. Alan Menken’s 3 nods for these songs put his career total at 13 in this category (he’s won 4 times).[_]3 of the 5 original screenplay nominees were written by women–a first._Before the Devil Knows You’re Dead_ features nominees Phillip Seymour Hoffman & Amy Ryan, though neither were nominated for that film[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/24 "2008-01-22T17:08:05Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] Paul Thomas Anderson - Best Director, Best Screenplay, both for There Will Be Blood Cate Blanchett - Best Actress for Elizabeth: The Golden Age, Best Supporting Actress for I’m Not There Roger Deakins - Cinematography for The Assassination of Jesse James By The Coward Robert Ford, and No Country For Old Men [/quote] You’re forgetting the Coens, who are up for Director, Screenplay, Editing (Jaynes is a joint pseudonym) and Picture (they’re both credited as producers) > [@](#): > > Julie Christie won her first Lead Actress Academy Award in 1966, for the film Darling. If Christie wins for Away From Her, there will be 42 years difference between her first and 2nd win. This is Christie’s 3rd nomination. She was also nominated in 1972 for McCabe & Mrs. Miller. She was also nominated for _Afterglow_ in 1997 (I always use the year the performance is being recognized for, as opposed to the year in which the nomination is merely announced). > [@](#): > > Also, Ruby Dee now holds the record for shortest performance nominated for an Oscar. I’m pretty sure Beatrice Straight still holds this record (grab your stopwatch!) ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Fight](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/90ced4/32.png) [@Cat\_Fight](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Fight)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/25 "2008-01-22T17:12:31Z")
Have seen 50-75% of the films. Boring all around. **Juno** was nice, and I like it when smaller pics get attention, but I wouldn’t have pegged it as Oscar-worthy. Ellen Page is talented but she’s got a future of great performances ahead of her. Sarah Polley should have gotten a nom for Best Director. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/26 "2008-01-22T17:19:53Z")
ArchiveGuy, of course you’re right about the Coens! How could I have missed that. I should have held it back and thought it over some more. And I can’t believe I missed the Afterglow nomination for Julie Christie too. I liked reading your Trivia points, they were interesting. [QUOTE=well he’s back] Hello Kitty took the words right out of my mouth!: "honestly There Will be Blood and No Country for Old Men sound utterly boring and pretentious to me. " From their descriptions I can’t imagine putting down money to see those in a theatre. [/QUOTE] I’ll also step in and say that neither of those movies are pretentious or boring in any way. No Country For Old Men is edge-of-your-seat thrilling almost all throughout. There Will Be Blood isn’t thrilling in the same way, but it’s fascinating and engrossing. I’ve seen No Country twice and There Will Be Blood 3 times (and want to see that one again). There Will Be Blood is, in my opinion, by far the best movie of the year, and Daniel Day-Lewis gives one of the best performances ever. Daniel Day-Lewis will win. There can’t be any question about that. If he doesn’t, it will go down in Academy history as the biggest blunder ever made (at least, since Citizen Kane lost Best Picture). Since No Country For Old Men is a masterpiece too, and directed by the Coen Brothers, if There Will Be Blood loses to it that’s fine with me. It’ll be one classic masterpiece losing to another classic masterpiece. It’d be interesting if there were a Picture/Director split though. Either: Best Picture: No Country For Old Men Best Director: Paul Thomas Anderson for There Will Be Blood Or Best Picture: There Will Be Blood Best Director: Joen Coen and Ethan Coen for No Country For Old Men Either one of those would be alright with me. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/27 "2008-01-22T17:31:20Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] Sound Mixer Kevin O’Connell now has 20 nominations (no wins yet). [/QUOTE] Other nominees with high career counts: Alan Menken (_Enchanted_, Song): 18 career nods (8 wins) Randy Thom (_Ratatouille_, Sound Mixing & Sound Editing): 14 career nods (2 wins) Greg P. Russell (_Transformers_, Sound Mixing): 12 career nods (0 wins) Rick Baker (_Norbit_, Makeup): 11 career nods (6 wins) Dante Ferretti (_Sweeney Todd_, Art Direction): 9 career nods (1 win) John Frazier (_Pirates 3_ & _Transformers_, Visual Effects): 9 career nods (0 wins) ---
**Author:** ![well\_he\_s\_back](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/3ab097/32.png) [@well\_he\_s\_back](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/well_he_s_back)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/28 "2008-01-22T17:47:18Z")
Regarding “No Country…” and “There will be Blood”: They are probably good movies. But I have to decide how to spend my limited movie dollars somehow. Sometimes I’ll go see a movie because of particular actor or director. I use summaries of the plot, reviews, comments from others, the usual. Everything I read about these two films indicates a movie I personally would not enjoy. Maybe I’ll catch them on DVD. I too am glad Viggo Mortensen’s wonderful acting got noticed. ---
**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/29 "2008-01-22T17:58:50Z")
[QUOTE=Equipoise] They did. Roderick Jaynes was nominated for No Country For Old Men. [/quote] So he (they) did! I went to IMDb and they just had the Coen’s names. This is a really strong year. I think to honour the occasion I’ll go see a movie after I do a little bit of work. ---
**Author:** ![Lamar\_Mundane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/85f322/32.png) [@Lamar\_Mundane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamar_Mundane)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/30 "2008-01-22T18:09:54Z")
Count me in as another who would have liked to see **Into The Wild** get more recognition, although I can’t seem to come up with a great case for any single category, **except** Eddie Vedder for song and soundtrack! How could he get shut out? “Guaranteed” won the Golden Globe and the soundtrack to the film was letter perfect. What a snub. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/31 "2008-01-22T18:23:32Z")
Phillip Seymour Hoffman becomes the 18th performer to be nominated for an acting Oscar under Mike Nichols’ direction (the 6th highest of all-time) Updated nomination totals for films directed by… 42 Mike Nichols (11 films) 31 Ridley Scott (8 films) 18 Joel Coen (4 films) 15 Tim Burton (9 films) 14 Paul Thomas Anderson (3 films) 12 Michael Bay (4 films) Updated nomination totals for films featuring (including voice work)… 82 Ian Holm (18 films) _(7th highest of all living actors)_ 70 Cate Blanchett (12 films) 68 Tom Hanks (17 films) 65 Ed Harris (18 films) 64 Daniel Day-Lewis (12 films) 63 Vanessa Redgrave (15 films) 61 John Ratzenberger (15 films) 60 Geoffrey Rush (13 films) 57 Peter O’Toole (16 films) 55 Robin Williams (20 films) 54 Julie Christie (15 films), Morgan Freeman (17 films), Tom Wilkinson (12 films) 53 Russell Crowe (8 films), Max von Sydow (18 films) 52 Christopher Lee (17 films) 49 Tommy Lee Jones (12 films), Viggo Mortensen (11 films) 48 Scott Glenn (11 films) 46 Orlando Bloom (8 films), Albert Finney (13 films) 44 Johnny Depp (15 films) ---
**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/32 "2008-01-22T19:59:59Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] [li]Cate Blanchett becomes only the 2nd performer (after winner Linda Hunt) to be nominated for playing a member of the opposite gender[/li][/QUOTE] Um, [Hilary Swank](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005476/awards) ?? Or, what about Dustin Hoffman in [Tootsie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084805/awards)? Or Julie Andrews in [Victor, Victoria](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084865/awards) (both nominated the same year, 1983, incidentally) That was quite a year for gender bender roles. Love all the Oscar trivia! ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/33 "2008-01-22T20:04:18Z")
[QUOTE=HelloKitty] Um, [Hilary Swank](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005476/awards) ?? Or, what about Dustin Hoffman in [Tootsie](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084805/awards)? Or Julie Andrews in [Victor, Victoria](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0084865/awards) (both nominated the same year, 1983, incidentally) That was quite a year for gender bender roles. [/QUOTE] Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc. Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men. ---
**Author:** ![HelloKitty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ecccb3/32.png) [@HelloKitty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HelloKitty)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/34 "2008-01-22T20:38:07Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc. Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men. [/QUOTE] Oh, I see what you mean. Hilary Swank’s performance was so good I kinda forgot she was a chick playing a dude…I sometimes think of her character as a dude exclusively. ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/35 "2008-01-22T20:59:58Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. Swank played a chick pretending to be a dude, Hoffman an actor pretending to be an actress, etc. Hunt and Blanchett played Men. Not women-passing-for-men. Men. [/QUOTE] I’d need to see **I’m Not There** again to be 100% sure, but in it I seem to remember a high-school yearbook at the end, which showed Jude as a woman, therefore, Jude was a woman pretending to be a man. About my predictions, which I’ll put here rather than revive the other thread… I didn’t do too badly. In the Top 8 I predicted **34/40**. I did very well on choosing Alternates, but they don’t count, and I didn’t count them in that 34/40 score. Best: I got **5/5** on Best Supporting Actor, Best Original Screenplay, and Best Cinematography. Worst: Original Song **2/5** because I didn’t think Enchanted would get all 3. Sound Editing **1/5** because I didn’t even really try on that one. I get the Sound categories mixed up and didn’t research it enough. My total for everything except Foreign/Docs/Shorts, which I didn’t predict, was **64/89**. BEST PICTURE (4/5, with Atonement as a Dark Horse) BEST DIRECTOR (4/5, didn’t even have Reitman as a Dark Horse!) BEST ACTOR (4/5, had Tommy Lee Jones as a Dark Horse) BEST ACTRESS (4/5, had Laura Linney as a Dark Horse) BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR (5/5) BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS (4/5, had Saorise Ronan as an Alternate) BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY (5/5) BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY (4/5, didn’t even have Sarah Polley as a Dark Horse!) 34/40 BEST ANIMATED FILM (2/3, didn’t even have Surf’s Up as a Dark Horse!) BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY (5/5) BEST COSTUME DESIGN (3/5, had La Vie en Rose as an Alternate, and Across The Universe as a Dark Horse) BEST ART DIRECTION (3/5, had American Gangster as Alternate, and Golden Compass as Dark Horse) BEST ORIGINAL SCORE (3/5, had 3:10 as Alternate, but didn’t even have Michael Clayton as a Dark Horse!) BEST ORIGINAL SONG (2/5, had Happy Working Song as Alternate, but didn’t even have So Close or Raise It Up as Dark Horses!) BEST EDITING (4/5, but had Diving Bell as an Alternate) BEST SOUND MIXING (3/5, didn’t even have Ratatouille, or 3:10 To Yuma as Dark Horses!) BEST SOUND EDITING (1/5, I suck) BEST VISUAL EFFECTS (2/3, but had Golden Compass as Alternate) BEST MAKE UP (2/3, but had Norbit as a VERY Dark Horse) Total: 64/89, blah ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/36 "2008-01-22T21:10:03Z")
[QUOTE=HelloKitty] Love all the Oscar trivia! [/QUOTE] A couple more: Elizabeth I becomes only the second role to earn 3 separate acting nominations (Blanchett twice, plus winner Judi Dench). The other is Elizabeth’s father, Henry VIII (Robert Shaw, Richard Burton, and winner Charles Laughton). Blanchett also becomes the only person to earn nominations for playing two different real-life Oscar winners: Katherine Hepburn and Bob Dylan Updated list of films with high Oscar-nominees-within-their-cast Counts **All the President’s Men** : 11 **Ocean’s 12** : 10 **Adaptation** : 8 **Just Cause** : 8 **Midway** : 8 **The Firm** : 7 **Hercules** : 7 (more than any other animated film, IIRC) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/37 "2008-01-22T21:29:34Z")
Wouldn’t it be wonderful if “Norbit” won an Oscar? ---
**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/38 "2008-01-22T21:43:50Z")
Uh, no. ---
**Author:** ![Reloy3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c68b51/32.png) [@Reloy3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reloy3)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/39 "2008-01-22T21:44:00Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Worst Nominations 3 _Enchanted_ songs nominated (over anything from _Into the Wild_ or _Hairspray_) [/QUOTE] I loved the music of _Enchanted_, but I’m afraid 3 noms will split the vote and one of the other two nominees will win. But, is anything from _Hairspray_ even eligible? My understanding is that all the music from _Hairspray_ was done first either on Broadway or in the previous version, which would make them ineligible. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2008, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498/40 "2008-01-22T21:47:30Z")
[QUOTE=ArchiveGuy] Everyone you cite played characters of the same gender who were masquerading as the opposite gender. [/QUOTE] How 'bout John Lithgow for _The World According to Garp_ (also 1983)? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/oscar-nominations-are-out/434498.md?page=3)